F22 Even Possible in War Thunder?

I’m corrected then, the first quote still stands though. Even without stealth, the F-22 will be better in BVR than the F-15E+F-15C combined, it will be the best dogfighter in the game alongside the Su-57. And it’ll be the first US jets with 360° RWR and MAWS. You can then add stealth on top of that.

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Probable; they’ve never fixed RD-33 engine performance.
Still won’t change the realities though.

F-22 is the most over-hyped vehicle of all time in America, and the Ford F-150 exists.

If a Russian was here, they’d probably say the same about Russia and the Su-57, and it will come in using publicly available information, be wrong on things much like F-22.

And if previously implemented vehicles are to be used… Su-57 will under-perform in flight model [Sukhoi and Mig-29] while F-22 will be mostly accurate.

Okay, now I really want to frag F-22s using F-4F ICE. I won’t be able to outside of a squad, or sim, but I want to now.

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well then this part of it is blatantly false

someone forgot how many missiles F35 can take externally

Which is just gunna make it even more of a brick.

Or is the F18E a good aircraft because it can carry a load of missiles?

Though I’ve only seen mockups of the F35 equipped with more missiles on the wing.

It’s overhyped for sure, but that reputation has a lot of weight behind it. The F-22 with a good pilot behind the stick is one-sided for other fighters, even in dogfight. Pilots themselves who had to fight the F-22 say that.

At that point gaijin might as well play the “internal sources say” card and give some form of LPI mode exclusively to all 35’s to compensate, or something among those lines.

“The XXX is a balancing factor” (c)

At least thats one way to make the only 5th gen available to IIRC more than half of WT’s nations not completely 100% DOA.

I haven’t seen anything stating next gen arh specifically, could be next-gen IR?

mach 1.8 supercruise?

you cant say its going to be weaker in weapon load but then say no, dont count most of its weapons

especially because pylon drag and weight arent modeled, so it bringing those missiles will impact it less than an EFT bringing the same number of missiles due to having a higher empty and gross weight

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they said next gen missiles and werent some next gen ARH models leaked?

If it’s 120D that the F-22 is getting then I think the community can breathe a little easier.

AIM-120D is in the files.

In terms of dogfighting we’ll have to see. ASRAAM and IRIS-T are better than Aim-9X, assuming they were added. That would close a lot of gaps and they can also always add AMK.

In BVR, it’s still got the disadvantage of fixed plate AESA Vs gimballed AESA. This could also be further mitigated by missiles. Meteor is better than Aim120D in BVR

I also have no idea how many CMs the F22 has but maybe 60? So gunna have a tough time defending.

Assuming the stealth didn’t change much under 50 or so km. It wouldn’t be defacto the best

Exact number is not stated only mach 1.5+ and that too would depend on its load out and weight

120D and PL-15 are in the files, but so are a lot of the next-gen IR missiles in the form of SAM in-game.

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Pl-15 was on the December leak list and they said in the dev stream dual pulse was being worked on. That implies ARH over IIR.

IIRC there has been confirmation of 1.7+ in testing and statements indicating 1.8 or more

could be both

we know Mach 1.7+ at least from an article about a general going for ride in one

Well i am just stating what was stated by lockheed