F15E vs F15I "controversy" and the real problem of the American main-based player

for you to use MAW, you have to equip a pod that makes you lose 2 aim 120… and no, it doesn’t have HMD, I have the plane, I play with it… I can guarantee that it doesn’t have HMD…

No, it is not better, the difference between the ADF and the MLU is only the air-to-ground armament, everything else is practically the same.

Just because a plane has something different from the American variant doesn’t make it better… jesus

There are 10 nations in the game currently… I’m talking about balance between the 10 nations

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Balance & parity always need to be a consideration.

I.e Israel having a slightly worse F16 than the US is not the end of the world. Because it’s fine margins and still reasonably balanced.

Equally, Japan having a slightly better F15 than the US is not the end of the world either. Because again, fine margins and reasonably balanced.

Some, not all US players feel that because it’s ‘their stuff’, they should always have significant superiority over the other operators of its exports, regardless of the whether or not those other countries have access to things to catch up again, and that’s neither in the interests of balance or reasonable parity.

It’s not about limiting the US, it’s about ensuring as many countries as possible remain viable, competitive and enjoyable as the meta evolves into ever increasing realms of capability.

/\ perfectly placed

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The MLU gets TWS. By technicality its better than the ADF since TWS gives you better situational awareness.

yeah thats why there are things called EXPORT VARIANTS something every military on the planet does. I don’t know where people keep getting this strange idea that the U.S Should always be held behind like the 🤡🤡🤡 that made this entire thread. Its clear he doesn’t know what really happened o he dev serer with the engines because they were giving the U.S F=15 Engines it never had to nerf it for no reason.

becareful that guys reporting peoples posts

Again. I don’t think anyone is asking for US to be ‘held back’. It’s more about making sure everyone else can keep up.

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I got Gaijined I guess.

If it had HMD, it would be better than F-16C even without MAW, a better FM for a slightly worse radar is worth it. If it doesn’t, then it’s hard to tell which is better. Probably F-16C, but at the same time American HMD is way worse than Russian and ofc the missile doesn’t pull as hard, so they rely on FM.

Still, why Netherlands, they don’t have a single original plane and France doesn’t need foreign substitutes.

It has the same radar as F-16AM with TWS etc., F-16ADF doesn’t have TWS. I don’t know if the MLU has a 13.7 radar or does the F-16AM have a 13.0 radar, but I suppose it’s the first option.

You complained that USA gets content every update.

For sure but OP isn’t helping either by childishly insulting US mains. I mean this post itself isn’t even for discussion, OP is just straight up venting.

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You wouldn’t like my name

you have tanks and planes that are the same as U.S Tanks and planes, but these vehicles are lower in BR and have better ammo, better armor, and people seem to think that we are going to be quest about this because? I don’t know where you people come off as telling U.S Players to keep quiet when we are constantly given inferior ammo and armor over nations we export stuff out too. lmfao that’s never going to happen.

examples?

Uh ok

Yeah i get that.

Healthy debate is basically impossible when it kicks off with slander.

Socially awkward?

? The F-15E in US service absolutely used the 220 variant before they used the 229 variant… US mains just cried that Israel was getting a newer version of the F-15E. (USA would have gotten an even superior version later anyway…)

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Both US and Russian HMD have 20km ACM. There isn’t really a clear advantage unless its the Yak-141/MiG-29SMT since their radar gimbal limit is 85deg which helps their HMD a lot.

The MLU’s radar is just the F-16ADF’s radar with TWS and DL.

What?

Yeah how about some examples for both ground and air. What nation have superior firepower, armor and ammo ? Peak delusional US main

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What tanks / planes are you talking about?

I am not your enemy. I was active in that F15E engine thread supporting the cause to get engine parity with the F-15I, just as i am active in F-15I threads to get CAS parity with the F-15E.

I only care for parity & balance.

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No, it’s about other operators not having a significant superiority over the original operator.

I meant for a dogfight scenario, so gimble limits and IR missiles.

What about scan patterns in TWS mode? Are they the same as in F-16C?