The Su-34 is a completely different aircraft yep. It does looks like a decent fighter, but it has no HMD. It can carry 6 R27ET however and I think that does make it pretty potent. I have to grind the entire bomber line to get it though so I won’t be able to test it anytime soon.
Better is better even if its marginal.
Don’t care unfortunately.
Also I’m not in favour of anything, the reason of saying the F-15JM is better than F-15C is because someone brought it up.
Ah, I love the “Give soviets a counterpart of USA thing” moments. :/
I never knew that War Thunder only have two nations in this game.
…On an aircraft that weighs 13 metric tons. EMPTY. Unless you’re doing controlled 1v1 duels I don’t think that’ll ever be something you gotta worry about vs fuel/missiles amount. Coincidentally that’s as big of a weight difference as between the US F-15A and the F-15J.
AAM-4 is still a mixed bag with its lower range and slightly better agility, its a sidegrade at best. AAM-3 has better range (not by much) and both are still underperforming.
Like sure these are upgrades but the differences are so small you’d be hard pressed to actually notice them without graphs and datamines. At most you’d notice the AAM-4 has less range but can pull a bit more if you’re relatively close. The rest is basically interchangeable.
The F-15JM is better enough that tournament players only use the F-15JM over the F-15C. The difference is small but better is better.
Also its not “slightly better agility”
I’m sorry, I’m just not that into planes, I’m mainly into tanks, mostly WW2 too. I like all war machinery though. I know something only about planes that are in the game with a few exceptions, I don’t know what would be the F-15E equivalent.
I mean, that’s the world after WW2. You have USA, USSR and everyone else is just a pawn. Currently China is replacing Russia.
+1, it’s just annoying. I wouldn’t want China to have the best Flanker variant or Germany to have the best MiG-29 variant either.
Btw this is gonna be reality. China just makes better domestic Flankers irl.
No, that’s a gross oversimplification of it. Especially when it comes to military tech which nations like Germany and France kept up to date with throughout the cold war…
It is better, true, is it so much better that the USA players can whine about it being better? No. Especially when the USA is the most pampered air nation.
US mains don’t complain about the F-15JM is the thing. Everyone is fine with it.
Well, War thunder isn’t real life simulator somewhat kind similar to Matrix,
They need to take care of 8 other pawns and bishops.
nearly nobody wants to become pawn even in game.
What do you think this is?
True. He isnt a US main though from stats. Just someone who has a general point that doesn’t specifically point towards the F-15JM.
you’re in for a rough ride in the future then…
If that’s how it is, then let it be, but don’t artificially accelerate it.
Really though? China makes better Su-35s?
Germany has strong ground, France has strong air, UK has reasonable ground, true. Germany even surpasses USA in quality of their tanks and IFVs, but definitely not in numbers.
china bought Su-35s which turned out to be worse than the J-16 so they never bought more and sent them off to some random naval defense squadron
I think I saw many guys cry when the F-15J came out with exclusive AAM-3 compared to their F-15A though.
“IS THERE ANY MEANS TO CLIMB USA BRANCH WHEN EVERY AMERICAN JETS ARE SUPERIOR IN THEIR EXPORT VARIANT” kind of thing. :/
happens every time, one day they might accept that it’s how it is irl but gaijin keeps feeding them what they want
I think that was when everyone thought the AAM-3 would be like IRL. Turns out its just mostly a 9M copy.
I really don’t mind F-15J(M). It’s just a tiny annoyance.