F15E vs F15I "controversy" and the real problem of the American main-based player

That’s kinda the point, the Flanker (and soviet stuff) had R-27ER/ETs to compensate their gap in avionics and raw performance, problem is that it didn’t had a decent competition, so it always felt inherently unbalanced.

lol, lmao even. Skill issue i guess, you have the best plane in the entire solar system, how you didn’t managed to connect the missile with such a strong radar tracking. /s

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What flagrant misinformation…

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What the actual heck did I just watch lol

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There was a time when there were phantom radar contacts that you could lock and fire on.

I wonder if those missiles saw one of those.

You sir, just observed Sparrows operating at peak consistency and performance.

Not tracking, self destructing, slamming into earth, lofting into heavens. A fine weapon from a more civilized age of top tier.

Widdle eawgles spawwos not twacking? 🥺

…said Mr Su27.

Womp womp, here, catch this 27ER for me buddy

…he continued.

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😂😂

Truly a weapon to surpass metal gear.

Because it should lmao, how is this an outrageous take.

That’s what every nation does, make the export version slightly worse. At best the same, but definitely not better.

I would argue that minor nations players feel entitled to the best versions of other nations’ planes.

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Because it’s putting self interest ahead of balance.

If parity is possible, we should get parity. No one has a god given right to be superior to anyone else.

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How?

Who is stopping other nations from getting equal domestic planes?

Besides, how is Israeli F-15 having massively better engines than American F-15 balanced?

Everyone has God given right to not be robbed.

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I feel like, you’ve taken something I’ve said out of context, and maybe misinterpreted it.

This whole thread, I have been consistently calling for parity. The thing you quoted of me, I was specifically noting a grievance against a small portion of US mains who don’t want parity. Who want their stuff to better, even when parity is possible.

It’s not. Which is exactly why I have been in very vocal support of F-15E getting 229’s in just about every thread on the matter.

I am not asking for anyone to be ‘robbed’. I want F-15E / F-15I to be as identical in capability as possible.

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I don’t want US planes to be better than everyone else, I want the US to have the best variants of their own planes.

That’s an unrealistic expectation and for that reason export planes should be slightly worse than the original.

So you want to see an Israeli / Japanese / Whoever export of an F-15/16, be worse than its US counterpart, even if it doesn’t have to be?

Why is it unrealistic ? The only thing now which separates F-15E and F-15I is that E has a better A2G load. Why not give F-15I something to make them equals? Why, for absolutely no reason, hold F-15I back?

Your comments are wildly contradictory here :

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I would prefer that, but I don’t mind them being the exact copies.

The thing is, even if they are almost identical, minor nations always get a little something to make it more interesting. Even when it doesn’t really change anything like AIM-9M vs AAM-3, it’s annoying.

Ideal balance is unrealistic, unless you make exact copies.

I never said F-15I shouldn’t get A2G load. I said that F-15I shouldn’t do anything better than the American F-15E.

F-15I not having A2G load is a pretty big disadvantage, not something I would consider slightly worse. Even more so when the whole point of F-15E was ground strike, it’s even named Strike Eagle. I think it should get the A2G ordnance F-15E has.

I don’t care enough to look through what’s coming, because it’s subject to change. This thread was originally about calling US players spoiled brats, because they also want the game-changing engines that F-15I got.

By domestic I don’t mean a domestic modification, I mean Flankers, Gripens or Mirages.

By the way

I don’t mind Germany having the best Phantom, because it’s a substitute for fox 3 era gen 4 fighters and sits at the same BR as them.

It’s a domestic upgrade that was supposed to make old, outdated planes somewhat useful.

By the time it was made, the US has long retired F-4s and was flying F-14s, 15s, 16s and 18s.

The same story is with the MiG-21 Bison and would be with F-4EJ Kai, if F-4J/S were at 11.7 (MiG-23MLD also should be 11.7 in sim btw).

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Idk about always. Of all the F-15/16’s in the Israeli tree, I think the only one you could argue being slightly better than its US counterpart is Netz vs F16A (Because Python-3). The rest are all equal or worse.

No one is asking for that. People just want some form of standoff. If it turns out the only options are better than Mav’s, E can get something better too.

All Israel really has in that regard is Lavi - A project the US put pressure on to cancel so Israel could put its money in the Boeing / Lockheed store instead lol. Equally, all Japan has is the F2, but im sure US players would throw up a frowny face if that got added anytime soon.

yup still happens which is why i just dont care about playing top tier air. even happens to aim 7ms

so why f15e gets it’s best engines while su34 doesn’t get thermals it should and getting it’s PESA radar nerfed to scan slower than slot antenna?

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It’s already going to get x6 of the most overpowered AGM’s in the game. It doesn’t need more buffs.

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The Su-34 technically has thermals if you use the Kh-38MT’s sight which has gen 3 thermals.

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Okay then stop the Russian Bias and actually level the playing field and we might not complain as much.