F15A in 12.7 BR

the F-15A is stronger than the F-18s in pretty much every respect

eh, imo no. They’re not good enough for that at 12.7

F-18C Early could go up as long as it gets 9Ms
F-18A should get AIM-7P too

We need decompression higher up before those go up
You’re forgetting Su-27S

F-15A is superior to the F-18s and performs much better in uptiers (Because it is undertiered)

With the right decompression. Im hard pressed to see why most/all 12.0s should have to deal with them, let alone 11.7s.

Imo, the biggest failure of the last decompression was that it stopped at 10.0. Which meant that 9.7 only became even more compressed.

it needs to be 1.0 to 14.7 or not at all.

Though obviously, I wouldnt propose them move up to 13.3, until such time that 13.3 was a good fit for them, but they shouldnt be the same BR as the FA2 for example.

Yeah, was a quick and dirty pass

This is the decompression Id like to see:

Though doesnt address below 13.0

We need like 15.0 or 15.3 now.
That way we can really decompress

I think the simplest solution is just whenever they hit a point where something is too good to remain but not good enough to necessarily be a peer to what is above, is to just insert a 0.3, by moving everything above up 0.3.

So, for example, I think they need to add a BR for the F3, Kurnass 2000 and Kai, between 12.0 and 12.3. Probably a good spot to put the weakest of the ground attackers.

And just repeat that all the way down to reserve rank.

Eventually you’ll get decompression. The biggest issue with a lot of decompression plans I see is that they are constraining it to a set max, rather than letting that max be whatever it happens to need to be

The Kurnass 2000 should move down in BR, it has no business being at 12.3 whilst having no radar missiles in a fat brick. The F-16A can stay at 12.3 despite only having IR Missiles because it’s simply more maneuverable and more powerful engine. The Kai is fine as it recently gotten AIM-7Ms. I’m not sure about the Tornado F.3. Kfir C.7 should also move down in BR and out the Kfir C.2 at 11.3, it’s not gonna break game balance because the Kfir C.2 only gets 2 A2A missiles at a time and the C.7 is lacking it’s guided ground attack munitions considering its role of strike aircraft after the F-16A and F-15A entered service.

There is no difference between 7F and 7M in game, change meant nothing in this case.

Tornado F3 has a very good weapons fit, radar and RWR and is meant to have a very good CM count. The trade off is a very weak dogfighting FM.

The issue is that the CMs are massively nerfed and it’s missing loads (Phimat) and it’s missing a chunk of flat line speed due to the lazy half-baked FM it has.

If they fix BOL, add at least 1 Phimat and then sorted out the top speed, perhaps through using combat thrust like the latest Mig29 has I think, then it could move up to 12.3, compression would still suck, but that would be okay

To move up the Tornado F.3 would need all of that and the significant amount of lift it is missing to be added, the flight model is diabolically bad and is the primary limiting factor. It wallows around like a F-104 that can pull more AoA, except that extra AoA is pure drag and zero lift. Nose pointed up and the plane barely starts changing direction.

Yeah…

But Gaijin have stated that they will never action any of the remaining bug reports for the Tornado FM. Even though they know its very wrong.

So:

  • BOL overhaul
  • Phimat Pods (it could have 2)
  • Combat Thrust
  • A few other misc fixes

I think its about the best we can hope for currently.