I think it’s fine where it’s at, it’s not overpowered or anything and it faces a lot of 13.0 and 13.3 in uptiers, sometimes 13.7. But if you want the F-15A at 13.0, that is your opinion.
it is.
Compared to its “peers” at 12.7 it is much better
So the F/A-18C Early premiums with AIM-7Ps just don’t exist then
I rarely face other 12.7s other than the Premium hornets
F-15A is better.
faster, better flight model. (Baz and F-15J aren’t as good in the fm department for dogfighting, but still better for 16v16 air rb due to actually being quick and having good high alt+speed performance)
AIM-9Ms (AAM-3s for the F-15J)
more countermeasures
It’s significantly more uptier-proof because it’s such a strong 12.7 plane.
If it wasn’t for the F-18C airframe being a slow pos it could be better
I’m pretty sure the F-15A and the Baz are the exact same aircraft just with Python 3s but I really don’t know
Even if 18C early has better radar and 7Ps are better missiles than 7Ms, F-15A can leverage its FM by simply being higher and faster at the time of launch, giving its 7Ms a massive energy advantage Hornet simply cant match. So it isnt as one sided as you make it out to be.
And VWR, 18C early pretty much is outclassed unless it gets shot where 15A engines are perfectly fully in view, 15A is afterburning, isnt preflaring and is within certain distance where 9L closes distance too fast for flares to enter its FoV.
In other words, 18C early needs nearly pitch perfect launch conditions to ever hope landing a IR missile on 15A.
And when it come to guns, only thing 15A needs to do is to not get caught with its pants down in one circle, 18C early effectivness drops massivley longer it needs to turn.
which is a massive problem in 16v16 air rb.
Not saying the F-18C Early (or F-18A) is bad, it’s just not as good as the F-15
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I don’t dogfight hornets because of the 7Ps, I try to avoid them, I also pick them off my the Limas and Python 3s (I don’t have the Mikes unlocked yet) from the rear or top down.
It’s better for them to be in the ground then to be in the air for me but do have higher threats like the SU-30MK2 and SU-30MKK AMV using RVV-AE or PL-12s
not sure what that has to do with the previous argument of 18C early vs 15A but aight.
Hey, somebody else brought up the Kfir C.10 into the argument between the F-15A and F/A-18A earlier in here
They stated that the Kfir C.10 had better flight performance than the F-15 does…
…sure? i dont want to sound dismissive but i responded to this tho:
mentioning premium SU-30s and what not goes beyond scope of what i wanted to focus on.
I’m clearly not the brightest and not at the fullest complicity, I should probably get off the forums for now
no one is telling you to go away, im merely saying that mentioning Su-30s goes beyond scope of my argument, which was “18C early/15A comparison isnt so cut and dry”.
I’ve talking nonsense and I’m not going away, I mainly use the forums to check the suggestions and what other people has to say, I’m not smart for this type of convo but it is something to learn from. I just need a break from all the arguing and talking.
If you’re firing off 6 missiles, and all 60 countermeasures in a 1v1, then that might explain how you’ve fooled yourself into thinking the F-15A is better.
Decompression should start with the strongest aircraft.
I’m not.
I’m simply stating an obvious fact
Which would be the F-15A at 12.7.
Looking at a light 12.0-13.0 decompression only.
Tornado F3 (with a few bug fixes) should go up 0.3. (maybe the Mirage F1, but that becomes messy with the Mirage 2KD-R1)
F-18s (Aim-7M), Mirage 2KCS4/5 and F-16 (Aim-9Ls) should go up 0.3
F-18 (aim-7P), F-15s, F-14A, F-16s (IRCCM) should go up 0.3
Su-33, F3 Late (with buffs), F4F ICE, Maybe the F-2, should go up 0.3
(of course it wouldnt stop there and should be continued all the way up)
But the F-15A would defiently be one of the first aircraft that needs to be moved up with a decompression. Heck, whether the remaining 12.0s (like the F-4s) should even be able to see an F-15 in an uptier is a debate to be had.
No, not even close tbh. Compression would need to start with the F/A-18A/C and the Su-27/30/33.