Actually one big advantage mirage 4K has over f15a is countermeasures type and count
Su27 shouldnt move up, su33 sure, it has more missiles and an actual rwr with much better engines and more wing loading (not that it makes it a better df), and the flare count is irrelevant to gaijins standards (j10c)
su-33 doesn’t have that much better engines, and is actually much worse in thrust to weight, speed, and general flight performance because its 3 tons heavier than the base su-27 for just 600 kgf more thrust.
but i do agree that in a perfect world in decompression exists, su-27 would be one br step higher than the 15a.
Rn though, they should both be at 13.0
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I do not experience the same difficulty getting sparrow shots as you did in the clip when I play F-15s. I would have to see either repeat examples from you or play it more myself which I will do when they make the mistake of making it 12.7.
The F-15 is just better overall besides this thing you’re saying happens to the F-15 which I can’t currently confirm.
It pretty much is this exact relationship actually in a fight
And this won’t happen to a F-18 going 500kph after 2 turns?
You may even not reach that position in the first place if an F-15 is abusing its flight performance at height, you can easily get a solid lock with an AIM-7M on the F/A-18s radar.
The F/A-18 trades flight performance for radar performance, I’ve never lost a single lock wether with the american or the aussie F/A-18A within 15km unless the target actually notchs. The F-15A/J/Baz however… refer to the video.
F-15C MSIP II down to 12.7 :)
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gib F-16A at 12.0))))))))
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He can also easily notch you
Then you can easily carry 4 7Ms on the F/A-18A and force the eagle to permanently try and notch you lol? An F-15A does not carry HMS, so the moment it goes defensive, its only hope is to bleed the hornet’s missile count.
And on 12v12/16v16 lobbies? That’s sketchy to defend as fun gameplay.
No HMD isn’t an issue when it’s a better dogfighter than most of the other aircraft.
F-15A is quite literally one of the OP 13.0s, alongside the Flankers and F-2A.
F-15A getting AIM-120s would move it to 13.7, and this one can’t, so there’s no reason to talk about it.
Your hypothetical idea is a bad one, tom.
Edit reformatted the post.
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No better than the flanker and its current buffs.
No better than the Gripen from basically ever.
Rough peer with the Mirage 4000 unless you force it on a vertical.
Not happening, stop making hypotheticals which are unfunded to make a disingenuous point. I could’ve said the same with several vehicles, but I know hypotheticals are flawed as an argument when they’re besides the point.
The 12.3/7 Mirage 2000s could get MICAs and could easily be 13.7 too. See how invalid that point is?
What reaches first, an AIM-7 fired at high altitude at high speed on a lower target or a low speed, low altitude sparrow launched at a high altitude, fast target?
The one who doesn’t loses lock out of nowhere :), and I bet my GJCs the Hornet has better chances on that.
I do not have this issue in F-15.
This is not a point. I provided evidence before of an issue that has always existed on the F-15A and has been thoroughly documented.
If that’s the level of arguing, then I’d probably have play the Mirage 4000 and save some nuances to make a point, as its clearly not an issue here to give a biased and non-nuanced approach.
You seem to be under the impression that I’ve said something other than “I cannot verify your claims personally”
We are not arguing.
And probably viggen DI as well, simply due to RWR. But thats about it from like a dozen or so 13.0’s. Not great by any standard.
Also given that 13.0 more or less always plays in ARH-hell, maybe theres an argument to be made that going full YOLO mode with 8 magics is preferable to torturing yourself with sparrows.
Mig-21 Bison likes to have a word :p
tbf that is also at 12.3 and not 12.7 or 13.0.
And stuff like the ej kai is much worse in FM than even the bison