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This is the greatest rage bait I’ve ever witnessed
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ok chat lets make the f15 fight against f1c and mig23 in a full downtier, which can happen very often since a lot of player bought the premium version, sound good right ?
this is not okay at all, the air us tech tree at 12.0 have than enough, you have the block10 at 12.3 (yes, only 9L, but very good FM compared to the jets in this bracket), f18a at the same br as the block10 with 7M/9L and a decent FM and now the f15a at 12.7, remember that there is jets that doesnt have radar missiles and get a pretty bad fm at this br (yes, the kurnass 2000) and need to fight those, just stop 12.0/13.0 is already dead man
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I was looking to buy it. I then did more than 30 seconds of research and went “nah I’m good”.
I’m bummed to find out from this thread that the M4K is a lemon and should be skipped… :(
I wouldn’t call it a lemon, just that it’s worse than some of its peers
Like the su-27, f-2, f-15s, etc.
It’s not horrendous but not amazing either
It is essentially an IR missile only gen"4" (more like 3.5) that is fine if you squint and look crosseyed on paper, but in practical terms gets ate alive by the matchmaker.
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Judging an aircraft by its stock state is such a terrible thing to do.
but even stock the F-15A has flight performance thats worlds apart to the tornado or phantom
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and you arent limited to 2x weak rear-aspects stock like the Phantoms are either
The correct answer is more decompression, not more compression
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In an ideal world, they shouldn’t be moving it because its radar should be good enough to keep a decent and consistent illumination below 15km at the very least, 20km should be a true threshold for that BR range given the appeareance of ARH slingers.
Its not the case in-game, and its BVR performance is quite lackluster, as the radar loses lock due to inconsistencies once you maneuver around its illumination. Given its kit is 50% medium-to-BVR based SARH missiles, and the other 50% is IRCCM IR missiles without HMS, turns out being a Frankenstein without a role to fit completely. It can’t be a whole early game aggressor, nor a support plane.
Again: until at least its radar gets fixed, no one convince me otherwise the F-15A is just as overrated as the Falcon on ground.
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Severe cope and skill issue
Su-27 yes, MiG-29 absolutely not.
You do remember the M2000 winning vs the MiG-29 right? The M4000 wins vs the M2000 by a large margin and the Su just falls out of the sky in a 1v1
I could argue that the F-15 has a chance with the sparrow, but not a very big one, the F-16 loses in every aspect against the Mirage (missile count, CMs, FM and i believe radar, but not so sure), and suggesting the F-14 is laughable.
Make up your mind, because we’ve gone from “one of the worst flight performers” to “a good 13.0.”
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Nah not after the fm buff like a month ago that makes it an almost baby plane fm
Yup, everyone is still judging the Su-27 for his historical performance, not for like the buff it received like lit weeks ago which bumped the frame among the top 10 best turnfighters.
It’s the same cope tale about the MiG-29 being hopeless, but exponentially worse given the flanker is actually good, and like really good at turnfighting right now.
It got nerfed like a week after
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It was a nerf over a buff project.
It ended up being still a buff anyway. Some of the relevant 2.53.0.43 buffs were not even touched on 2.53.0.45.
The biggest part of the buff pretty much carried over even after this nerf here.
The rate was waaaaay off the charts with the first buff, it still is but not as much.
Anyway, the Flanker FM is very much enjoyable now, much more competitive than it was before.
it still doesn’t meet its lift charts rn even while overperforming which is super dumb. fixed flanker would essentially be worse in rate than it is rn (sustained a specific speed when turning), but with much better first turn ability + retaining more speed when pulling hard when losing speed
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Usual case of bug reporter saying “X” to the devs, devs understand “Y” and proceed to implement "Z"😭
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