I mean… there are simply too many things that need fixing on both the F-14A and F-14B.
F-14A Early
- Incorrect flight model under SAS mode(sim) : Same goes with B model
- AN/ALR-23 IR seeker : From NATOPS manual, they were available until 1980
- AN/ALR-45/50 Hands off mode : Makes possible to identify what aircrafts/missiles are locking you
- TF30-P-412A : Too high heat signatures
- Missile activation conditions based on target size (6NM/10NM/13NM)
- AIM-9L : They were available since 1977
- AIM-54 PD-STT SARH mode : If you launched with PD-STT mode, AIM-54s never go active
- VDI A2A mode : Shows better missile launch distance when you selected AIM-7/AIM-54
F-14A IRIAF
- AN/ALR-23 IR seeker : They were also available pre IIAF service
- TF30-P-414A : Bit different from 412A that F-14A Early has
- Drop tank
- AIM-54s at wing pylon
F-14B
- Auto flap mode
- PAL mode : 30NM ACM mode with P-STT
- Incorrect TCS modeling
- ECA : Additional CM launchers at Station 3/6
- Sparrowhawk HUD
- new VDI
- AIM-9M
- AIM-7M(H build) aka AIM-7MH
- AIM-7P
AIM-54A/C
- Mk.47 motor : Basically low smoke and better thrust but shorter burn time
- Loft profile : depends of launch condition but, they can reach over 100,000 ft
- Dual plane : Makes it possible to turn 24-25G
- Incorrect drag modeling
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My experience on SU33 is that the r27 ER is able to FNF from its IOG at sub 10 km range but that’s just on the one airplane I don’t know how it reacts with different radars
Same with every other russian radar. Mig 29 even has TWS.
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What? It’s a fact, you can mutipath them because they have a large enough splash to kill you.
…seriously? Are you doing this on purpose?
I feel like you are actively trying to not understand what I am saying.
The F4F ICE has a 10.3 airframe, as in, it’s the same airframe that can be found, at 10.3.
The 13.3 F-16s are fairly good for the BR and most F-16 players usually carry an all fox3 loadout anyway.
The main issue is that the difference in performance between the average 12.7 to 13.0 and the average 13.0 to 13.3 is too drastic. Mainly the average 12.7 and 13.0 should be separated by a whole BR in my opinion.
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Obviously you dont know what you are talking about. Its the Kit on the plane that gets you kills. Any sentient human being would choose the Aim-120 over the Aim-54 rn cuz the Aim-54 no matter what version is terrible. Yes the tomcat is fast, but when your radar and missile kit sucks balls, then you cant really compete with the 13.3s 12.7s 13.7s and 14.0s. 12.7 to 13.7 br bracket is getting spammed rn because good players are playing 13.7 to farm the 12.7 premium players. So you almost never get a full downtier anyways.
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Yeah, If its 2 year ago i would say like every one" its a very good plane and op". But now in 2025, F14 should need a huge fix. AWG-9 have only 9km and only can use in head on. A model have 12.7 br but didnt recive 9L. Same as B model at 13.0 br but didnt recive IRCCM missile. Now it dosent like when it came. This plane should get a realy huge buff.
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Just needs 9M added to it, and 9L to F-14A
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Yes… in ACM mode specifically… but it has many other radar modes.
Its would be great if it been a all aspect PD. I dont sure the real AWG-9 have a normal or HDN.
Yes, you only have 6 hard points and why would you use one for the 9L? I’d probably bring 2 9Ms if possible.
I agree with the sudden performances changes being too much, we need even more decompression.
At 13.0 you almost never see anything above you. Everything at 13.3 is pulled up.
It’s called a trade off, you get speed, a ton of CMs, FnF missiles, the ability to sweep wings, and more fuel.
I’m fine with them fixes the issues the jet has and keeping it at its current BR but if you give the thing 9Ms and such it will have to go up somewhat, it’s as simple as that.
I was talking about people only bringing fox3 when having 9M option, so missing the 9M is not a big deal
Is there not more of a BR descrepency when one 13.0 f14 fires gimped pheonix while the other gets cracked fakours and 27ers?
Fakours are not “cracked” and it only gets Rs. Not ERs.
It also gets the worst afterburning engines above 12.0 and the garbage RWR, so it’s a tradeoff for sure.
Fakours are a pain if you have a shitty RWR and dont kmow the 900 IAS rule.
Beam riding notch (not sure if thats its raal name) = it still.gives you a hair cut
Would be nice if we could get a similar version in a tree.
I play the 12.7 f14 and its a great spam bus . Id take the fakours over a better RWR/ engine if given the choice tho.
Id consider them, having a few for close engagements isn’t the worst thing in the world.
Having 1 or 2 Aim9M in a 6 missile loadout is at best a sidegrade, even on F-15s I often don’t bring any IR missile. If you only have 120a (unlike the ones that get derby), in pure kinematics alone the 120a can work just as well if not better at close ranges.
It just depends on the situations, For close range side aspect, or for low altitude against someone scrapping the ground, 9Ms are more useful.
Everything else the aim120a is better, I’ve killed plenty of people at very close ranges where they overshoot and the aim120a gets them from behind because they don’t have time to notch. At slow speeds both missiles turn about the same. Now if we talk AAM-3 it’s different
they don’t even HAVE to model dual plane, as you can look at other missiles that CAN’T force dual plane IRL and they still get their full g pull, where as the aim-54 gets lower pull, BECAUSE it could. (also honorable mention of the other hughes missile, the sim-4, which can never under any circumstances pull it’s statcard g load because it is hard limited to 15 in the files, leading to the PID undercompensating and only pulling 7gs in ideal combat conditions) Suffice to say that gaijin really isn’t letting these systems be as usable as they ought to be, let alone reliable.
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