TOMCAT IS BALANCED GUYS
Doesn’t matter what mode you go to either, this is air assault right now… lol
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your reasoning of “guys it seems fair” because a new event vehicle came out. Newsflash that is still how alot of vehicles are on the last days of the event.
and even then its still a mid aircraft, the Fakours only being the actual good part.
When a F14A has bad low speed energy retention, like as soon as you get to like 400mph or so you kinda just sit in the air and takes forever to get it back(not even to mention the fuel consumption), very mid RWR, very mid IR missiles, its only hallmark are just Phoenixes and decent Radar missiles that say other missiles like the F-4EJ Kai, F-4S, F4-J.
and with two of those examples they are 12.0 and the reasoning is that it has slightly better avionics and flight performance than the ““heavier”” (although the F14 is a giant 34T minimum mass brick and only is good for like the single vertical turn you take to turn back on some dude close range)
Like yeah “guy’s you don’t understand you lose your advantage of being closer to the brawl”
if you are playing Radar missile trucks at 12.0 to just missile joust I feel like you are missing the point of it. like alot of F14 players only know how to drop their 4 phoenixes, and get kills because some dude tabbed out base bombing gets killed. If you are actually paying attention to your RWR the long dial tone telling you “oh shit you are locked from the pitbull phoenix” its literally a skill check and anyone saying it is any different can’t out G a lofting brick.
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Woah what do you mean! I love seeing 14 F14s, Harriers with 120s and other Planes in my JX35S it makes it such a fun experience to die 30 seconds into a match without RWR and watching a missile miss me hugging the ground at 30m and it still blowing off a wing.
Some planes dont have RWR at that BR though lol
The XS can’t see any AIM-120s and only a maximum of 4 F-14s on the other team
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that is a full uptier; you can’t see more than 4 F14s, and that is typically a rare occurence; you also are trying to gaslight by saying you are seeing 120 Sea Harriers and AV-8B+ when you actually dont. You are using a premium vehicle that sadly is like some lower tier BR F4s such as the C and E variants…power creep and more indicative of Gaijin allows compression to still affect this game, but the idea that the F14 is suddenly TOO OP AND YOU CAN’T SIMPLY WIN is a lie.
If im a F14A player; with what people are trying to say add; they want you to see F16Cs, F15Cs, deal with alot of aircrafts at the same BR with better radar, RWR, and SARH missiles let alone full uptier seeing tons more Fox 3s all the time(they say it should be 12.7)
For a Phoenix, something that has been in the game for a while, that is slow top speed, slow off the rail slow acceleration, low G maneuverability, tracking is worse than it has been and simply defeated by notching away from the battlefield for all of 5 seconds.
12.3 the a good seat that it should be at because typically it can go either way and aside from a gimmick, faces the same missiles it fires at respect aircraft, the 7Fs.
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at 12.3? lemme know what aircraft 12.0+ that don’t have RWR, you will have a tough time doing this. if this is in relation to your J35XS, a 11.3 aircraft, then I simply don’t know what to tell you, you see some aircrafts at your BR that don’t even get countermeasures? Does that mean we should move every aircraft away from them? Because that would mean by the time I get it sorted I get the Japanese F-1 with 9Js(AIM 9Ps are just export 9Js that work slightly differently) at a BR completely on its own because it doesn’t have countermeasures.
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There’s kind of a gulf of a difference between flareless planes fighting Fox-2 missiles with short ranges and that often can be defeated by rocket pod “flares”, and getting slapped by a missile racing in at mach 3+ launched by a spec on the horizon. You can play around the former but the later is a sick joke. There’s room to maneuver around Fox-2 ranges even if you lack flares. RWR-less planes need to simply abstain from queuing up or try to multipath 300% of the time.
Tbf its not the F-14s problem that the J35XS has no RWR at 11.3. The J35XS shouldn’t even be 11.3 to begin with, its a massive oversight by Gaijin.
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^^ that
You wanna know an even bigger oversight? How the F-16AJ is the same BR as the F-15A/J. The F-15s are infinitely better.
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There’s alot more room to maneuver on a Phoenix; they are launched on probably around the 40km mark and are really slow to get to their top speed. I think a Sabre seeing a Aim 9L or G or J is hilarious then going like the “well you can maneuver” And typically the “spec” you can literally see the con trails from not only the F14s launching but the phoenixes…that is like some victim blaming with goal post moving. Like I get what you are saying but we don’t live in a perfect ecosystem. Like if this was a “the J35XS and other jets shouldn’t be at this BR XYZ because of power creep” I will whole heartedly agree…but their idea is to kick a Jet out of BR and put it literally in the same position as those jets are facing.
Like people have to deal yes at 11.3 it is a BR where you might be paired up with adversaries that may out class you, every nation at every BR gets this way be it ground or air, shit I play the Type 74s and they feel good but if you are trying to use the same BR lineup you go fight vehicles that are alot better than you in terms of ammo, armor and sometimes mobility and get thermals. Its just life is; They will move F14As to 12.7, then all F14 enjoyers will get slapped by AIM120s then the cycle continues that either F14 players complain because they are in a radar game they have no actual agency over when you could play the F15A or F16 to have either a good dogfighter or have good SARHs. The F14 is literally a gimmick and people that enter that BR range that spend most of their time getting to the middle watching cocomelon will think its BS.
cohesion. In warthunder.
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Are you just new to the game or have you not noticed that 99% of players “fly left” in a big blob?
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its funny because people will complain about everything, the whole point of the F-14 is to fire beyond the horizon hence BVR, but people dont like that, so then people believe something needs to be nerfed, because its somewhat decent at the job it was meant to do. they complain because they want an easier time. and to clarify the F-14’s Pheonix’s are only Decent. Both the variants of the Pheonix have stats that it can’t really reach. Things like extremely high drag, lower than real life max g turn, being extremely sluggish off the rails, the lack of a low vis trail from the 54C’s, and more.
Which reminds me of this:
“like a prophet” I foresaw a problem that was completely obvious, but at first it wasn’t obvious enough to gaijin.
and at the time I wasn’t even counting it as a fakour buff…
look how fun it is 11.3-12.3 now…
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If aircraft at 13.0 like the F-15, Mirage 4000 and etc reliably got downtiers against the F-14 event plane spam, it’d be more managable.
There was a period of about a week where that happened, and I farmed many many many fakour 90 spammers. The terrible AWG-9 can be notched without losing lock on the F-14, so I don’t even need to deal with their missiles going for me. I’ll disappear off their radar and the missile goes stupid, but still guide my missiles to them.
Even then, it’s literally just the Fakour 90 that makes them good. Turns out a missile that accelerates super fast is insanely strong.
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better to ruin a plane than an entire br
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