F14 It's too strong for the current BR(12.3-12.7)

Oh im well aware xD thats what i mean hes here being a pest for no reason other than to troll

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put it at 13.0 bro its way too op

now that basically a premium model is better than it at same BR i think F14B should go back to 12.7

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How does that make it more managable??? That just means now you deal with both F-14 and a Su-27/F-15?

When your only option is 1 plane having fun or 30+ planes? It’s objectively the better option.

And then what for the F-14A? Do you think?

no it should be given aim9ms and that’s all

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and F-14A gets 9L

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i dont see gaijin doing that as if they where going to would have done it by now f14B can 12.7 easily until they decomp BRs at that range the f14A can go back to 12.3 aim 54 is pretty much useless cause gaijin nerfed the radars innto the ground and refuse to buff them because of there russian sources F14 is not even that op compared to other planes like mig 29G is pretty much better in all aspects

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not to mention most planes like mig21 bis can keep up with it in a dogfight and the mirage 2000s of course

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the only problem is its radars but there easy to dodge as tomcats radar does not work well at notch angle

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based on what

nah thats just dumb compression, F-14A would have to go to 12.3 which is not fair.

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your no offense but f14a is weak sauce and can be very easily beaten a half skilled player

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Why do we need to let F-14A go back to 12.3 for harass match all over again with the meme AIM-54
while also having everything F-4S has with better flight performance?

Send F-14B to 12.7
→ why F-14A IRIAF 13.0. even better 14B is 12.7
→ reverting IRIAF to 12.7 too
→ why normal F-14A USN is 12.7. as long as F-14A USN can’t use Fakour-90, it need to be lower
→ F-14A USN to 12.3

Tadah Recompressing completed.

Even though current AIM-54 might be strange missile,
as long as AIM-54 is ARH missile, and having some advantage of being ARH
(we all know usually AIM-7F/M are better than current AIM-54A/C)
Thanks to it, F-14A can’t be lower than the current 12.7.

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to be fair F4S is a insane plane for its br its basically a mini tomcat and honestly the aim54C not fakour has horrible accuracy rating for a fox-3 not to mention f14 having worst radar at the br when iit should be in top 5 at 13.0 the SU33 does everything betteer and is free f14A is mid massive heat signature okayy turn rate whimpy engines only 60 flares its sad plane

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the ones who whine about aim54s should go play toptier and get shot at by aim120s aim54 is easy to dodge stop cattering to premium wallet bombers the amount of mig 21 and 23s i see bombing is crazy

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yeah no, a skilled F-14 absolutely does not lose to anything south of 12.3, straight up not capable of happening if the F-14 isn’t bad.

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Yes.

Yes.
I also dislike them when I play Tornados on ARB.
Thanks to them, I need to A2A against enemy MiG-23ML or F-4S which are armed with full anti-air loadout. while holding 2 AIM-9L only and dull Tornado fuselage.

I am well aware about that problem. but bringing them into Tomcat problem is insane take.

No.
Of course ‘current’ AIM-54 is a meme missile which is way worse than AIM-120
in nearly every aspect.

But, in the meantime.
planes which faces AIM-120 are usually better equipped with newer RWR or more CM.
while there are tons of planes which have ‘just better than non-existent’ level of RWR in F-14A’s downtiers.

“F-14A is sad plane bc it has 60CM”
yes. much of planes in lower BR also has 60CM as standard.

“At least it also gives where the hell AIM-54 comes from. notch it noob”

(FYI, F-104S.ASA has RWR which has no direction alert at all.)

Even though current AIM-54 is ass, as long as it is ARH, it can’t be any lower than current 12.7BR.

if we want to close the gap between F-4S and F-14A narrower,
send F-4S to 12.3 ‘after sending F-4EJ kai to 12.7 with decomp’ suits better.

Sorry, this sounds like Typical Tomcat jockey movement.
“TOMCAT DID NOTHING WRONG IT IS ALL THOSE DORK WALLET BOMBERS FAULT”

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Ok, R-60M is ass, still an all-aspect. R24R is good for SARH, MiG 23MLD has a nice FM , why is it below Mirage F.1s?
F-104S ASA on 12.0 as well.
Problem is we need decompression, that means top gets higher to create space below.
Every argument is correct and wrong at the same time in the current situation. Depends what planes you play you see different picture. Comparisons of that kind are currently invalid.

Also, my true opinion is make Tomcats as they should be, along with the armament they should have and AIM-54s as they should be (the “we don’t use dual plane so the missile is bad” doesn’t say much to me , make it work…) . Then uptier them as they should be .F-14A should be equivalent or better than F-15A , let’s start from there , but in order to do that…give it what’s missing and fix what should be fixed. They made the plane put it there , didn’t update anything… now it’s a problem.

Yes, which is important at say, 9.3-10.3 where you can shoot at flareless jets. Not so much at 10.7+

Yes however the MiG-23 radar is garbage.

Yes but not nearly as nice as prior years, and even with that old flight model it would still lose to anything in an uptier today past 12.0.

IRCCM? duh?

Yeah

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