The F-2A doesn’t have an HMS.
I forgot :D
Are you trying to insinuate the Tomcats aren’t heavily overBR’d? Normally it’s cope like “oh no they’re actually good at 12.7 and 13.0 hurr durr” or “i know they’re not even great 12.7 aircraft but they can’t go down because muh premium BRs get slaughtered when the skillcheck missiles hit them 1 second before a regular sparrow would”
Here comes some now!
Maybe for the Aim-54A (even though it has the most kills on fighters of any ARH missile in history, and was tested against maneuvering targets a lot)
But the Aim-54C and Fakour-90 were purpose built for an era where the soviet threat was diminishing and anti-fighter performance was prioritized. This is why the Aim-54C gets 25G of pull, a better, controlled detonation, and anti-countermeasure properties.
HMS doesn’t dictate BRs. HMS doesn’t make missiles perform better.
TWS isn’t needed for SARH missiles.
AIM-7s and AAM-3s are not inherently better than AIM-7s and AIM-9Ms.
Identical IRCCM for the IR missiles.
Mig-29G has a worse kit.
Keep trashing on American jets and defending your precious Russian jets with lies.
No, I just dont think Tomcat issues will get fixed by merely moving them up or down in BR and change to their loadout.
so what would be your proposal then?
Bro wants F-14 dominance back
Move them all down to 12.7 at a minimum and give the F-14A Aim-9L if no other changes take place.
If they stay the same BR give them correct IR missiles, fixed radar, and fixed Aim-54s. Update the F-14A Early to late possibly and give it ALR-67, making the normal Early 12.3 with Aim-54As, Aim-9Gs, and Aim-7E-4s.
Moving them up would require additional changes like FM and RIO functionality, along with decompression. There shouldn’t be a time where the F-14s move up in their current state, period.
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The F14A should go 12.3 and the B 12.7.
I think compression is good. This will also reduce 11.3 queue times!
on that we can agree
IRIAF at 12.7 with Fakours?
F-14B at 12.7 with 700x CMs?
sure, not opposing this whatsoever.
no one implied they should be moved up?
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They should move down to 12.0 so the Mig25 can be owned actually
Yes.
The smallest caliber of CM in the game with the hottest engines in the game.
there are no fox 3s besides the phoenix at 12.7
not a fan of compression.
the aura that BOL CMs are bad needs to go.
Yes, individual BOL pop is weaker than standard CM, but that does not mean the 640x BOLs F-14B gets are suddenly useless.
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doesnt really matter
For flares, they absolutely are. Especially because they drop first and on their own. It’s terrible especially for the F-14 being hotter than the sun. So they all go into Chaff for me. And with them being 4x less effective, it’s the equivalent to 160 normal caliber chaff packs.
Now if it were IRL accurate BOL with Chaff being 3/4 of a Large Chaff and the Flares being XL Flares, then yes, it would be very strong.
Yeah it really does bud.
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not once I had issue with BOL flares on planes like EFT, and that one faces much more IRCCM missiles than F-14B.
yes, individual flare is less powerfull than standard flare. The lack of burn duration and luminosity is a trade off for having up to 640x of them, which allows for longer pre-flaring.
Not to mention entirely different enviroment F-14B would find itself in at 12.7, as IRCCM missiles are definetively NOT standard at this BR.
According to the above graph, not really.
Thats still more than twice the amount most 12.7 planes get??
and different effectivness of BOL chaff isnt a problem for you?
it would be straight up busted even for 13.0 plane, moreso for 12.7.
No, because chaff doesn’t have to heat up and isn’t affected by my plane’s characteristics. It just exists when I pop them and instantly goes into effect. Flares have to heat up and if they’re not hot enough or if my plane is too hot, they will do nothing.
The EFT is a light fighter that also has much lower heat signature and a better flightmodel meaning the IR missile doesn’t have as good of a track and is constantly having to readjust to the 15G pulls you do while decoying them. This is not the case on the F-14.
Completely different environment is a big stretch. Most 12.7 games will still be dragged into 13.3-13.7 games. And with the OCU and Mirage 2000s at the same BR, it’s pretty likely most of the games you’ll play will have IRCCM missiles in them. Even below you the Bison and JH-7A and IRCCM.