F14 (except IRIAF) BR

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Just wondering if F14s (A and B, not the IRIAF with Fakours) sit at the correct BR.

Because :
AIM54 are now not very effective, due to their generation and the fact most people know how to easily dodge them since a long time.
Short ACM range, with radar lock that can be easily broken, making AIM7 quite uneffective.
Bad AIM9s, only rear aspect for the A, all aspect for the B, but no IRCCM (BTW 2026 and F14B still not able to carry AIM9M ? wth ?).

B carry a huge number of CM and they are very good dogfighters overall.
But in my case, I really struggle to make good games. The fact they both get uptiered 90% of the time doesn’t help also… facing 13.7 / 14.0 jets and fox3s with AIM54s, AIM7M and no IRCCM fox2s, that’s hard life.

Just wondering what other people think.

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I mean if you will compare Tomcats exclusively to aircrafts sitting entire BR higher of course they will come off as bad.

Sure 14A could do with 9L and 14B could do with 9Ms but thats the extent of changes you could expect tbh.

Phoenixes still offer massive range advantage over their contemporaries.

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I don’t really have an opinion about the current BR of the F-14A/B; I just hate having to play them. I don’t like the Phoenix missile meta. I want to play normally, but if I don’t carry Phoenixes, the BR of the F-14A/B feels abnormally high, because their Fox-1s, Fox-2s, and RWR are all too poor for this BR.

I would be happier if I could play the F-14A at 12.3 without Phoenix missiles. It would be fairly weak at 12.3 compared to the Mirage 2000, MiG-21 Bison, and F-18A, but I think it would be more fun that way.

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Not really.

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How so?

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They do not hold a significant range advantage over most fox3s, or the R27ER, while also having the worst accel of any fox3 in the game, and the worst radar of any fox3 carrier in game (that I can recall) to fire them.

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Fair

Aye I suppose thats on me for not specifying.

F-14A with Phoenixes at 12.7 still outrange Sparrows, which lot of 12.7s carry, no?

Oh absolutely, not denying that.

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The only F-16 at 12.7 left is the F-16AJ. The only Hornets at 12.7 carry the 7P which is superior to a phoenix overall. The MiG-29 carries R27ERs. The Mirage CS5 is basically the only jet that you have better radar missiles than and thats because it gets 530Ds.

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Sure it might be better missile overall, I agree, but nonetheless Phoenix has range advantage over it no?

Not talking about how well longer range fits meta or whenever longer range guarantees kill.

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This is still a grand total of 1 actual jet (the hornet) that gets played. And even if you aren’t talking about the viability of “BVR” at this BR, it doesn’t work well in game and can’t be relied on. The F-14’s struggle massively right now.

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Fair enough.

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Actually they can go very far and theorically more far than AIM7 or R27. But they will be easier to defeat.
Remember they were designed to kill heavy/big targets (bombers), not fighters.

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Nobody said otherwise. Please read.

Not true. AIM-54 does not have an appreciable range advantage over R27ER.

Read:

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14B with 9Ms means 13.3 and a reason to keep F-14D on the backburner as AIM-9Ms is the primary armament difference for in-game.

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F-14B with 9Ms is still worse than the F-15A at the same BR that already isn’t the best at that br

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F-14B with AIM-9Ms would be equal to F-15A which is one of the OP 13.0s as is.

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What do you mean by calling the F-15A OP? The Su-27, Su-33, F-2A, and MiG-29G all have significantly better weapons, while their flight models are only slightly inferior.

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@YouRememberLove
Mig-29G has notably worse flight performance, worse radar, worse loadout, and worse RWR.

Su-27 has worse flight performance, and RWR.

F-2A is the same loadout as F-15A.

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Less kit but better one.

have better kit and more.

better loadout and better radar.

And all of em have TWS/HMS to Actively play

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AIM-54 would need a nerf for the F-14 to be moved down.

It’s an average jet in all other aspects.