Which supersonic should I get first?
all three get dunked on in uptiers and dunk on others in downtiers bc of the compression so that doesn’t really matter
f104 is the best teamfighter but not all matches are won that way and its not very fun (in my opinion) to fly straight, 3rd party, probably miss my shots, and only be able to take headons if im the last one on the team
mig19 seems like it would be fun (energy traps and all that) but i feel like i would be the one getting my kills stolen then and the compression at transonic speed is just a bit too oppressive, as well as the mid roll rate and slow cannons
f100a is a worse mig19 performance wise that gives up turn, energy retention, and climb rate all for aim9es, sliiiightly less compression, somewhat better roll rate, and better cannons, and it kinda feels like a mig19 thats trying to fill the f104s role
oh and im not gonna mention the mig21f13 because its js not very good its an f104 that can turn for half a circle but loses all the things that made the f104 good (massive speed and climb, easy to aim cannon, pretty much no compression)
Out of these three, Mig-19.
I play every event the Ayit, and the Mig-19s are the most difficult to fight for me. Turns better, is way faster and it’s one of only a view planes able to outmaneuver 20G missiles.
This topic is about 9.3 planes. Harriers are 9.7. There is only one single 9.3 plane with better missiles, Yak-38. And the Super Mysteres B2 Sa’ar with 2 Shafrir 2 at 9.0.
Btw, AIM-9E is 1. uncaged, 2. 50% ish faster. 3. way more range than the 9B.
Which means you will face them constantly. Also yeah, I meant uncaged for the aim 9E, sorry, but they are incredibly easy to outmanoeuvre. When I pick a plane, its ability to fight in uptiers is massive for me. The F-100 in an uptier tends to just die, although many planes are similar due to how compressed air is
F-104 is probably the worst of the bunch, all it has is speed, but it can absolutely work
While you say its got an easy to aim cannon, the F-104 is just not a forgiving platform to aim said cannon
F-100 is a very good dogfighter, but you need to be careful how you use it, you can get too slow too quickly, but it does turn very well, with very good cannons, and 4x AIM-9Es can be very potent.
MiG-19 is the energy god, if you can aim the NR-30 good, and know how you use energy fully, it will do wonders, and would be very good for teamplay, setting up enemies for 3rd partying. but also being very capable on its own
It depends how you play
I’ve played the J-7II which isnt far from the MiG-21F-13
They are extremely good and very fun to play, just please focus the engine mods
with all these vehicles you need to play your cards carefully in anything but a 1.0/0.7 downtier
The Mig-19 for sure, it’s got insane energy, it can outdo just about anything that isn’t an F104 in terms of it at it’s BR and it does turn better than the F-104, the R-3S may be terrible but it can come in handy when you catch someone with their pants down, nose authority is ok but don’t expect any magic tricks out of it.
The F-100 is also pretty reliable, I’ve grown fond of it when I got it a couple of months ago, 4 AIM-9Es and decent maneuverability, I’d say it’s pretty forgiving for a first supersonic with good guns. One drawback that it has is that it may feel a bit anemic at times with it’s engine thrust combined with the fact that it can bleed speed fast.
The F-104 on the other hand I feel is more of a one-trick pony, great gun very fast, but flareless and turns like the Evergreen ocean hauler even at low altitudes, nose authority also isn’t very good on it, so it’s as a missile with a man on it as it appears. The AIM-9B is also not very good of a missile like the R3S, but it can come in handy if you could ever catch someone off guard.
TLDR: If I were to pick my first supersonic, I’d just take the F100D, and I can also consider the Mig-19PT or S(missileless if you’re taking the one in Germany, but with an extra cannon and slightly better thrust to weight) as a good start. Avoid the F-104 for now and get used to supersonics and their flightstyles.
NR30 (here shown in red) has better ballistics than both DEFA (shown in green) or m61a1 (yellow). They in no way lack velocity, you can clearly see they are the fastest round among the three as they carry their energy much better and thus have a flatter trajectory out to extreme ranges the other two guns cannot even reach.