F/A-18 ruined 11.7

ur examples sucks XD
dude, i know the performance of the missiles, if u tell me 4 aim-9ms are better than 6 aim-9bs, its a bit obvious

Only on the ML and MLA, the MLD has a decent RWR for once.

Still the best non PD radar in the game.

An R-60M fired at close range will kill most of the time. They are only weak if fired from far away or in stupid ways.

More than suffecient for ARB. Especially when you are given markers that largely negate the dependency on the RWR. In SB this argument holds greater sway, but it is still a usable RWR for what you will face.

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yes it was to show that your logic is fallacious
and here, the mld is still more op because it has good missiles while also retaining the ability to forcibly kill something like the f4j and the f4j cant do anything about it in 1v1
yet you say that the f4j is more op because more missiles, yet it will lose because missile amount isn’t a magic number that kills. it is the missile abilities and airframe capabilities together

this also with the fact that you will be able to close in to those weaker opponents and they cant really run away

dude, to force a dogfight, u need to get near the objetive, something difficult if the F-4J is at 20km, where it can start launching missiles while being safe

if the f4j launches a missile at 20km what do you do? multipath and the missile does not hit
or notch and the missile does not hit

still the radar is not good in general at this br…

Literally fly a few feet off the ground and you are fine. Where as the R-24R has IOG and other tricks that can guide it in below multipath.

Its difficult to even low level head on a MiG-23 as you have 2 BS missiles to deal with.

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Yeah, this is why I hate fighting them. Its one thing when you can run away. or at least try to, but if they come and park 500m off your tail. Then unless you are pre-flaring. they’ll hit fairly consistantly.

sufficient for engagement for killing
made up by irst and medium range ir missiles and r60m and also by ability to force maneuver kills

20km missiles arent the problem when you see them at 20km…

not really, the R-60M doesn’t have IRCCM, so if u’re doing an energy dogfight and the enemy is very concious about the situation, he can dodge it with some flares

Its average. There are worse radars just below (like on the F-4E or Sea Harrier or Mirage) and a lot better just above (like the F3)

good thing you can catch them and with your superior maneuverability youre in position to kill them with gun
and i dont know what you mean with energy dogfight
1 circle or 2 circle?

1 circle

sometimes it works, sometimes you cant allow to bleed this much speed in a 16vs16

i won against a mirage when i was scissoring with it

premium mirage is pretty bad when you dont have the magic2 anymore…

this is good news

however it only being because of how busted OP aim7p/m is on a top tier airframe is an unfair situation

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ok but this is the ability the aircraft has to use
every ability is situation dependant
if youre in 1v1 your f4j as opponent is simply doomed
multipath or notch missiles then force dogfight
at larger amounts its very random however you can still trash people if you have the chance

because earlier you could play it always and almost never get killed
now dying is part of the game for you too just like rest of us
also lets be honest here youre new to jets

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