it was op? what about the F-4 with his 8 missiles at 12.0?
On full power or do you throttle back?
and the american planes that have better radar than the soviet planes
missile amount doesn’t define how op something is. ill trash a hornet despite having less missiles in a mirage
nice oversimplification bias though
you’re ignoring the difference between missile capabilities and ways to avoid them and simply saying 8 of them = op
tell me a fake fact i said
I usually use about 90%, and most of those missile dodges are between 600 and 1000 kmh.
mmmm, im not sure dude
u’re just saying fake facts to be cool in this dumb post where u’re talking
So a non-combat thrust rating at a speed where the Harriers thrust is modeled as significantly reduced.
When in an actual ACM situation how hard do you find it to flare missiles. Say mid dogfight with something like a MiG-21 or so.
dude, if my post is dumb, and u’re so inteligent that u say im an idiot that complains about american planes while playing with an “op plane”, then why u still talking?
like, u can do more interesting things than talking with me.
4x All-aspect IR missiles + 2x of the best SARH at that BR range easily matches the performance of 4x rear-aspect IR Missiles and 4x average SARH missiles.
Given the Mig-23MLD holds the advantage of speed and with the exception of the F-4S, manueverability. As well as having LCMs and IRST.
There is a very strong argument to be made that both aircraft should be the same BR and the “OP” one is the Mig-23MLD being 11.7 instead of 12.0.
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ok tell me a fake fact i said
prove yourself to be correct
F-4J has HMD and more radar missiles, so its better than the MiG-23MLD
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also speed advantange and maneuverability means youre able to force dogfights that you will win
This is a very op combination if there are also good missiles at play
the HMD actually doesn’t pair very well with the old radar and actually makes it more difficult to play
And like i said, you’re ignoring the differences between the missiles and only trying to use the amount of them
Heres a better example, whats better
4x aim-9m or 6x aim9b
that is very extreme, however it is the best example to show how your oversimplification bias works
with your fallacious logic, aim9b is “more op” because theres more of them
just as here, the missiles mld has are better here despite having them less they are more likely going to kill something
how op is a missile that might not even hit compared to ones that are likely going to hit
now the additional factor here is the fact that makes MLD the most op, the fact that it has superior maneuverability yet it can also force a dogfight. with a competetive pilot, against many aircraft that is a 100% confirmed kill
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More worse missiles in a plane that already overperforms.
HMD is fairly trivial addition without missiles that can be fully used with it.
But Mig-23MLD has LCMs, IRST and all-aspect IRs. Do they account for nothing or is HMD and more radar guided missiles the only criteria of note
I’ve seen people use IRST + R-24Ts to absolutely destroy opponents in the Mig-23MLD. That is probably one of hte most powerful combos at 11.7 or 12.0.
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yeah, the MiG-23MLD wins in a dogfight, if u can reach an enemy at a distance where u can start dogfighting. but against radar missiles at long ranges, the F-4 is better cuz it can launch more missiles, even if they don’t hit, u can launch them and pray u kill an enemy
r60m´s are bad, and the radar is also pretty bad, then you have rwr which is useless, I wouldnt see it as a good plane… I would rather play a plane with slightly worse performance with an acceptable weapon loadout and radar instead of this flying garbage…
Flying garbage???
Maybe learn the strength and weaknesses of an aircraft before saying things like that.
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the HMD actually doesn’t pair very well with the old radar and actually makes it more difficult to play
And like i said, you’re ignoring the differences between the missiles and only trying to use the amount of them
Heres a better example, whats better
4x aim-9m or 6x aim9b
that is very extreme, however it is the best example to show how your oversimplification bias works
with your fallacious logic, aim9b is “more op” because theres more of them
just as here, the missiles mld has are better here despite having them less they are more likely going to kill something
how op is a missile that might not even hit compared to ones that are likely going to hit
now the additional factor here is the fact that makes MLD the most op, the fact that it has superior maneuverability yet it can also force a dogfight. with a competetive pilot, against many aircraft that is a 100% confirmed kill
for example in a 1v1 the f4j will get trashed by a competetive MLD pilot
the f4j also cant force an engagement that will net a kill
both missiles it has can be trashed quite easily
the maneuverability nor speed is good enough to force a maneuver kill
it can be used, but its not the most reliable variant of using it…