i refuse to play toptier unless i actually have something to grind, so you’ve got me there.
I couldn’t find the one the simulation someone else posted but i did it myself, idk if this is the right params.
The r77-1 has equal or more thrust and is considerably more maneuverable as you may know, and let’s not forget the su30sm somehow gets to carry 12 of them
and, just for fun, fakour mogs
(its still abysmal)
Yet the R-77-1 has more drag than the AIM 120Bs, and are significantly less manoeuvrable than AIM 120s in closer range. We also have to talk about the planes that get them: with the Su 30 having a worse radar compared to the F-15E, and not being able to go as fast as the F-15E in the sky.
I am honestly thinking of not playing top tier anyways. I’m just going to be hanging out in customs, because at least there it’s more chill. Just screwing around with friends and doing funny things like racing around Advance to the Rhine in Doom Turtles while firing at each others tracks.
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i want the Su-30SM to chill in custom battles using the thrust vectoring to VTOL in ground matches
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???
OK, now its my turn to ask if you play the game.
Although i haven’t played ARB i HAVE played GRB, and i can say for sure that the r77-1 definitely 100% has much more turn capability than the aim120, and you can fire it offbore, and you ignored how it can carry 12 r77-1
f15 has a worse radar afaik
Basically the only thing holding it back, su30 is a veritable shitboat but you can’t ignore how it has 12 missiles meanwhile the F15E has what, 8 or 10 meanwhile the EFT only has 6. IMO the EFT’s a better a2a fighter overall though.
time to 6000m altitude and 1500kmh
What my friends and I used to do was go into Simulator on Vietnam night map, and we would try to fight each other while two of our guys (one on each team) would fire at us in their SPAAs. Nobody knew what was going on.
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Maybe I don’t know the game as I thought. I usually feast on Su-30s, while I get spammed by F-15Es in the stratosphere. Just my own bias, but if your weird sites say otherwise, Coolio.
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Ah yes, the wierd site
Afaik it uses ingame data
I used to dunk on F15E’s quite easily, maybe you should consider your own skill issue.
I will try playing the EFT tmr and see how it really is in the current meta
GALWAYLION = someone that plays the game for fun and not for obligation
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Cool, you use the interwebs and pull stats from some website. I used to do the same with baseball cards. Do people even still collect baseball cards anymore?
Also, obviously we have different playstyles. I prefer flanking and shooting from the side within 10km, which Su-30s tend to be easy targets. Can’t really flank someone who is orbiting the bloody moon.
Nothing wrong with @GALWAYLION playing the game for fun
But maybe he should refrain from making statements that aren’t very correct
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I flank around and go about 5500m alt, just below contrail range and get within 18km or so and launch at f15E’s. Not too difficult since they can’t seem to figure out how to notch
I finally decided to say screw it and just bought every top tier premium for every other country I still need to grind and am just hanging out in Sim bombing, and then grinding out the other planes in Realistic. I only want Rank VIII anyways to fight with.
Simply don’t need to since you can launch it mostly straight upwards sometimes and it will hit most of the time, since missiles perform better at higher altitudes and planes perform worse
I wish I fought your American mains. The mates I fight are going top Mach notching every five seconds. I usually let my teammates go after them while I go after Jas39s, MiG 29s, Su-27s, and Su-30s. Easy prey for me weirdly enough. Which is honestly sad, since I loved using the Grippen in 1v1s, but in Pubs they are terrible.
Just about everything you mentioned in the post after mine would be fixed by the .07+/-BR spread change. Less so a too tiers but decompression can fix that will minor tweaking but as far as 90% of the other tiers on both air and ground it would fix the vast majority of the game. And once it’s implemented a correct BR decompression throughout the whole game can BR done because the data points will be more refined.
Ironically everyone keeps using graphs and personal experience, but doesn’t take into effect that if they tweaked the BR spread, everything would vastly change on paper. W/L ratios, performance and game lengths. Player retention.
The perfect example is the F18C Early against the Mig23ML, using premiums for all intense purposes to make it fair, completely wrecks the Mig23ML. But still be pitted against the F4S/FC1 is a more fair fight. And it would never see the likes of 13.7. Where both the F18C’s don’t even belong due to lack in actual avionic/electrical performances. Not including The F18C late is absolutely the worst 14.0 jet in the game compared to everything else, it’s more of a 13.3BR Jet. (The jet should have been implements after the release of the F14 along side the Mig29SMT.)
I completely agree. Another thing would be splitting things up into categories: Biplanes and Props, Early Jets, and Missile Jets (I would put this one around 11.0 due to All Aspects and decent Radar Missiles). Split them into categories, so then jets of a different grade are not fighting them (like how a J32B should not be facing an A-10A).
Lmao.
I have the blud muted but seeing as in the other thread, he claimed that MEXAS on Strv122s is useless, i can only imagine what the man was saying about AMRAAMs.
Still mad I don’t care about your French Guinea package on a Leopard?
Also, tell the truth. You’re mad because I called you out on you regurgitating YouTube Shorts. You never once played Sweden, yet you claimed they were the most OP nation in War Thunder. You don’t have any real time put into France, yet you claimed France was one of the strongest nations in War Thunder. I called you out on that, and you went into a hissy fit and mass reported me. I could care less about the Argentine Package, especially since you used WIKIPEDIA as your source for why the Stridsvagn 122 was OP. You didn’t even use some stat card thing like that guy, you used WIKI bloody PEDIA as a source for a WAR THUNDER vehicle.
I at least admitted I was wrong, and said I had bias against the AIM 120s since I’ve gotten smacked by them more often than R-77-1s. You couldn’t accept the fact you were wrong and did not know a thing you were talking about.
not proven by anybody on this forum yet I believe?
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Neat! Did you know this chart doesn’t take into account DRAG IN MANEUVERS AT ALL??!?!?! Planes don’t fly in straight lines.
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