Yes, and thats why gaijin compensated by adding R-27ERs.
because the mig-29 was worse than the f-16adf which had the aim7m
Scratch that, ive read AIM-9Ms.
Yes the Mig-29 was worse but not due to radar missiles but due to having R-60Ms.
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Ironic coming from the person that just looks at whatever statcard and thinks they know everything because of that.
Case in point: Your Mirage F1C rant.
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Change the BR spread from 1.0+/- to 0.7+/-. Problem fixed. As well as 85% of the BR issues across the board.
First they released it with R-27R , which was crap because it underperformed heavily and wasn’t based on realistic data/info . So they gave it ER as a solution but didn’t give it R-73 . The problem is that they fixed R-27R -now performs well, they didn’t took back ER which it never had and didn’t add R-73 which it could carry.
So if you make the change, add 9M to F-16A ADF you have pretty much equivalents… same with F/A-18A (assuming it stays with 9L so you have a better in BVR worse in WVR scenario, if you give it 9M to equalize the build/timeframe it’s 0.3 higher for the F/A-18A) . With F/A-18C Early, give it 9M and toss it to 13.0 .
It’s or this or decompression i don’t mind which. Though your solution is permanent and for all tiers and decompression if not done right may result in a hit and miss if you don’t change the majority of planes’ BRs.
Also, a very basic problem with the game is that they don’t bring equivalent builds and try to cook up things on their own or mixing things too much.
I gave one example with F-16/18 and MiG 29.
There are many of these in the game.
Also , since mixed nation MM , it doesn’t matter what nation you play for the most part… The game doesn’t use the RL Air Force’s doctrines and combinations anyway , so they might be games that a plane may fit better and game’s that can be worse. Now combine it it with the MM compression/spread over tiering/under tiering and it’s very clear why end up in those arguments and discussions.
My problem with the community is they all try to make a thing that doesn’t work (current MM) to work by picking a plane and start calling from uptiers and downtiers…
If the spread isn’t lower or decompression happens AND/OR make use of equivalent builds for the planes (for weapons/systems etc) … we can end up in the same exactly discussion about every plane .
Ex. Don’t tell me F-15A is balanced , because against 12.0s it’s just too powerful. Against 14.0s is garbage.
MiG 23MLD , same story… against 10.7s (and even 11.0s and 11.3s) is just too much …against 12,7 is nothing .
It’s a general issue and i can’t understand why people fail to see it.
For the “olders” in the game we had the same issues with props …
Would much rather see F/A-18A get AIM-7Ps and go to 12.7 together with C early. Extra pair of Sparrows, while objectively means upgrade, IMO wouldnt warrant a BR difference since rest of the kit is the same AFAIK.
Yes , i can agree.They can play in the same BR if they have the same tools .
In general i don’t like the idea of AIM-7P(remium) to be a premium weapon.
Because you won’t really play them at 14.0 with F/A-18C TT , except maybe as a filler to grind AIM-120.
And i’m pretty sure that they will give 7P to F-14D when it comes , but there you’ll have AIM-54C+ so i don’t think that in a BVR heavy scenario (13,7-14.0) you’ll bring 7P as well if not for filler till you grind your best missile.
So that remains the main missile for a premium plane…
You can give the missile to 18A as a TT 18C equivalent and as an upgrade on 14B which will be an upgrade and fit their BR (with making 18A 12,7) .
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that would just be a better jet, not equivalent.Gaijin doesn’t even give 9Ls south of 12.0 for any fighter
in a just game it would mean a br increase, but not this one
Wow so your OP seal clubber plane finally gets to taste its own medicine?
is the year 2023?
Its shame that at BR where they are somewhat relevant, they get locked behind a paywall, since they are fun.
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I feel its issue with compression. Yes logically objectively better version of the same aircraft, even if its better only by slight margin, should be higher.
But currently, as things are set up, 18C early isnt 13.0 material.
They do in occasions … A-10 crap fights no-flare planes with 9L. There they can… When they should they don’t.You can say that’s a Strike fighter… But
You mean better than MLD with IOG R24s? Meh… not so, still you can easily flare 9Ls in game. More or less they are at they same level.
The version i’m talking about , with 7F and 9L and CAA (think it as MTI) could be a 12.0 as well. I’m not saying update the current F-4E , just a new - folded F-4E with the latest improvements it got . There was a version called SRA (Southeastern Regional Agreement) , those planes had the updated Navigation & Weapons Delivery System (NWDS) , very similar to 4th gen fighters … i think that was the version with CAA. Also single piece windshiels , so it was distinguished externally! They have options… That’s my point. Greece had some of those as well!
That’s why i talked about 9M. They can give both and call them 13.0.
Yes? IOG isn’t some magical i win button. The MiG-23’s radar being trash more than makes up for IOG being present + you having double the radar missiles on F-4.
No, 9L has double the range if not a bit more
Didn’t you see the “make it 12”? ok…
11,7 and 12.0s supposed to be close in powerscale.
Anyway…
I said it about the planes, not for R-60M and 9L .
No but makes a better missile…
R-77-1 Is slightly better than aim120 in BVR and significantly better at WVR, its just pure launch platform difference, but yes, it is a better missle afaik, what are you on
Who told you that? MilitaryTok? How about instead of listening to Gaijin’s YouTube, how about play the actual game.
how bored are u to say something that i actually retracted about?
u’re the new pathetic player here