F/A-18 ruined 11.7

If 30 battles is “extensively”, what is 60 battles than? “insane” followed by 90 battles which would be considered “unbelievable” in this rating system.

Than why are you saying R60M is not handy? They both are semi-useless that get flared off by 1 flare except the R60M actually locks so it may or may not hit a bot player who doesn’t flare.

And I was writing mainly about a dogfight against an ML/MLD/MLA whatever. You won’t be be able to get 9J off the rail in that case.

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Between them both, having spaded them both. The M and MLD.

Teh R60M doesnt though thats what im saying, it has a larger FoV for the inner circle but the actual fire angle is smaller.

I consistently can and do get the 9J’s off the rails in dog fights with the F4E though I do drop the sparrows.

BTW the initial comment was a dude talking about the F4E VS the ML which the F4E tends to win.
the FM changes to the mig23’s absolutely shafted their dogfight capabilties.

Mind you the F4E has a great sustained rate, that similar to the mig29 SMT, at least it was unsure if the SMT got buffed.
So keep that in mind.

EDIT: just to bounce back on

between the M and MLD ive nearly 100 games

And only half of your MLD games.

Most of my matches in base Mig-29 were done back when it was a top dog. While the plane itself and 27ERs were fun, the R-60MKs were lacking even back then, not to mention nowadays.

Im using it now as we speak and must say i prefer it ove rthe F16AJ and even the F15A, it just suits how I play better .

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Cant imagine its due to its dogfight capability.

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it actually can dogfight if you manage its speed etc

Dunno, last time we trained dogfights, my 29G against friends F-16A and C, (both min. fuel, clean loadout, guns only), A absolutely demolished 29G and against C it was down to the players error.

the F16A is still one of the best platforms in game for dogfighting and let it be clear I am in no way saying the mig29 is gonna rinse any of the aformentioned platforms, an most the 12,7s should beat it.

But in ARB not everyone knows how to dogfight or we make mistakes etc.

I dispise the duels in this game cause you spawn far, far too close in these planes to get any decent positioning. Like Spawning 5km apart going mach jesus just sucks xD

Absolutely, we dont make those training dogfights to simulate how average ARB match plays out, we do them to learn differences in aircraft performances.

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The AJ actually one of the best dogfight jet in the game tho , so is the F15A. But US main unable to utilize the F15A on it debut so we have that

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Yeah im aware of that, What I mean but is even in the ARB scene its different from the duels, for example a su33 technically should beat the mig29 in a dogfight, however If you come in from an off angle or position better before the merge it gives you a significant advantage.

The Duels / 1v1’s as you say show the stark differences in the platforms while ARB is it put into practice.

A good F16A pilot will lose 1 in every 15 at most to a mig29 pilot.
however if you have a great mig29 pilot and an average F16A pilot the F16 will lose almost always.

I think it does also come down to the pilots with these platforms, once you get past generation 3 planes.

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nope thats not true, just look at the winrate of france, before and after the intruduction of the rafale

What are you on about the win rate of france? where? in ARB ? air sim? what

a good EF2000 pilot beats a fantastic rafale pilot. Defyn even proved that in his video with the EF2000 dueling willy walrus or whoever it is whos considered widely as one of the best if not the best for 1v1’s in the game.

The pilot matters immensely especially in the gen 4s , gen 4.5s are just stupidely good in comparisson, much like the gen 4s compared to the gen 4s.

Dont go spouting nonsense now ron.

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The F-15A was great, but the su-27 was better suited for the meta, and now it’s even better.

Gun duels aren’t representative of AirRB. Both are fantastic but in a 1v1 the rafale would have a edge, while the ef2000 is better at early game to push the other team, just like the f-15e

The F15A was miles ahead of the Su27 for match impact im sorry, at the time the SU27 was just a missile bus and if you had literally any idea how to get past those missiles the thing was doomed.

Never said it was representative, the comparisson I’ve stated above before the EF2000 V rafale.

I stated above about how ARB is vastly different to 1v1s

But at the end of the day his claim was random and outlandish so I attempted to address it.

As is shown through stats the french players tend to be better statistically, now they have a plane which is meta their win rates skyrocket.

In my experience. I had to be WAY more passive with the F-15a and third party people. With the J-11/su-27 I could spearhead everything, deny altitude to f-16 and f-15 and if they survived my 27er spam I would usually have the positional advantage for the r73 to do its job.

I have better WR in the F-15 and similar stats, but the teams were considerably better too. Most flanker pilots weren’t any good and crumbled against teams of f-16/f-15s

In my experience I threw it right into the midst of everything and did pretty damn okay with it, then had to finish spading it once ARH dropped cause I took a back seat from teh top tier, got an okay KD with it TBH for what it is.

Aye I found the opposite man, i found the team mates for the US teams were absolutely abysmal

I need to correct myself. It’s not that the teams were better, but the F-16/F-15 were easier to play for the average player.

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Even then but the F15A stats showed that the teams were doing horrific with it, hence why it stayed at 12.3 while even the objectively worse SMT went to 12.7