The MLD vs. F/A-18 is imo much better matchup than MLD vs. lets say Sea Harrier FRS.1e, F-4F late, F-104G, Mirage IIIE, F-8E etc.
MLD can at least threaten the F/A-18 at range. What is any of the aforementioned planes gonna do against MLD? They get absolutely mogged both beyond and within visual range.
Move up the mld, like I said, I don’t care about it. But I can tell you this, I’d much rather fight a MLD then a F-16 or F-18 in pretty much any jet below 12.3
Again, you have to be a US main if you don’t think these jets are a issue at their current BRs.
You won’t hear me disagree, but the point still stands that these jets are placed far too low.
If any other nation had a jet with non the best weapons and amazing flight performance they would be placed way higher(Italy comes to mind)
Since were not getting decompresion any time soon, I can see A going 12.7 and C early MAYBE to 13.0 IF it recieves AIM-9Ms, but Hornet, just like MLD gets stomped in uptiers.
12.7 is uptier fiesta against F-15Cs etc. and no matter how much AIM-7Ps are good they are still sparrows.
probably because youre not accounting for the br difference and including mld’s br jet selections for it instead of ones under and also not taking into account that you wont face the f18 at mld’s downtiers
like i said they both are a problem however the problem here is compression at it’s worst
and like i also said, i do find it funny when someone who plays op jet complaints of another op jet
I mean, there is a massive difference between being an OP jet at 11.7 being a 12.7 OP jet. 11.7 is basically having all aspects and can outturn a Phantom. 12.7 having nearly unchaffable Sparrows (I said nearly), AIM 9Ls, and a very good turn time against MiG 29s and other manoeuvrable jets at 12.7
yeah the difference is that now the op jet below gets trashed too in uptiers and the pilot isn’t very happy they’re not as op anymore
u’re talking about me?
so u keep bullying me even when im not “complaining” about things.
cool
Sure. That did not come down to the planes themselves at all. I beat almost any matchup in an average engagement with an average air rb skill level just because I’m an experienced player. I can’t go around saying “I did X against Y jet in Z plane thats why its fair” and I think you can’t either for the same reasons more than likely.
What? MLD is far better than FGR.2 in both rate and energy fight.
This is just false. Pre-nerf MLD wiped the floor with any phantom in game, to a massive degree at that.
It’s the heaviest phantom in game by far with no slats or any other mechanism to help it out… speys don’t make up for this.
So does Su-30?
This makes no sense, hornet radar is miles better (automatically makes aim7 better by default. mig23 radar is garbage) and everything else you said is word slop with no meaning
Ok? want to do a quick comparison with MiG-29 at 12.7 and find out who actually is the better jet between it and hornet? Fun fact: It’s the Hornet.
Su-30 does not do this… at least when flown by someone with functional IQ. Su-30 is not a high flying bvr plane.
In neither of these examples does the USA plane lag behind? Hello? USA main whining much?
Kinda, sorta. R-77-1s are not that impressive, otherwise it’s an average skill jet. You can fly it straight with good missiles, but with a bit of skill, you can survive by doing funny tricks and take out unsuspecting targets with R-73s.
Most jets at top tier are average skill jets, with the only easier ones being something like Eurofighter if you want a general playstyle or something like F-15E if you want to BVR and do nothing else
It actually is. not for nothing it has x12 Fox-3s and x2 IR missiles and one of the best radars of the game.
Obviously the EF-2000 has better radar, and F-15C MSIP II/E has better BVR complements, but Su-30SM has a lot of missiles (even better than their older counterparts) and one of the best avionics for dogfighting
It isn’t. It lacks speed and capability to generate it to do well. No, R-77-1s are not better than AIM-120s at high altitude. No, having more missiles does not automatically mean more success. If you aren’t fast at high alt you are dead at high alt.
but it turns better than a F-15, and u can get ez kills with thrust vectoring + R-73
the engines aren’t the best, but are like the ones in the Su-27SM, and the Sukhois’ engines are like rockets
