F/A-18 ruined 11.7

18C early could go up a step to 13.0, but either decompression would need to happen or it would need to recieve AIM-9Ms.

Currently as it is, IMO its strong 12.7 plane, rather capable in downtier (then again which plane isnt better in downtier) but not quite 13.0 material.

Low top speed and only 60CMs do hinder it when compared to some other 13.0, and while AIM-7Ps are THE most accurate sparrows ive played, they are still Sparrows at their core and not in the same ballpark as R-27ERs.

And dogfighting bleeds a lot of speed, especially with cobra button engaged, making it exceptionaly vulnerable to getting smacked by R-73+HMS combos.

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Dogfighting takes more skill than flying in the stratosphere and spamming missiles. Therefore Rafale, Grippen, and Eurofighter requires more skill.

Do you think it’s healthy for the game that f16A and f18A in 12.3 kill 3 gen and f18C early in 12.7 also face 3 gen?

I’ve flown a lot of USA this last year because it was so OP, I literally swapped being a Russian main to USA main due to how unbalanced and OP the planes are.

Your argument is so bull and void, it doesn’t look at facts in the slightest…

What have you flown from either tech tree?

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Jesus…
I challenge you, get kill bvr 40+km with mica and send the replay here.
I don’t think it needs to be 40 km, 30 km is already valid.
Until today playing with Mirage 2000-5f, 2000Ei and Rafale I only got one kill 30km + of Mica, because the other guy was afk flying high at the end of the match.

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talking about mica

brings up magic 2 for some reason

lol???
rafale is objectly the best 14.0 and you still have not told me why it isn’t. micas have the best close range performance and only close range (10km) matters in top tier since long range shots from any missile are useless because they all just get notched the same. sorry to break it you but just because F-15E can kill the AI MiG-15 in test drive from a longer range doesn’t actually mean it will be the best in ARB where everyone who isn’t AFK will just notch/multipath to close the distance where the F-15E is completely outclassed and the rafale can just launch a mica from its seekers gimbal edge and safely return to a notch position instantly.
also rafale has the highest 14.0 KD and your “king of 14.0” is the lowest

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mica carriers are also the best even in 13.7

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Can you tell me which website you used in the print? I found these statistics really cool.
I find it incredible how American vehicles can lag behind the same vehicle in another nation, as in the case of the f15I and F15E and f15C and F15J(m)

statshark. it has lots of things

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do i think game with no decompression is healty? no
however the mig23 also gets to smash and trash opponents in downtier but we dont talk about that, we only listen to complaints of op plane owners when they get to feel what their own plane causes

Tell me you are US main without saying it

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i didn’t complain when they nerfed the eurofighter despite it being my top tier aircraft lol

You can’t possibly think think the F-18 at 12.3 is ok. The thing always sees downtiers and completely ruins any sort of balance.

I don’t care for the MLD(I don’t even own it) but there are a lot of other jets that shouldn’t face the F-18

yeah we care about f18 but ignore that mld is also a problem and shreds in downtiers
we let op plane owners complain about other op planes making their op plane suck
but we dont care about the ones actually suffering that arent op plane players

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The MLD vs. F/A-18 is imo much better matchup than MLD vs. lets say Sea Harrier FRS.1e, F-4F late, F-104G, Mirage IIIE, F-8E etc.

MLD can at least threaten the F/A-18 at range. What is any of the aforementioned planes gonna do against MLD? They get absolutely mogged both beyond and within visual range.

Move up the mld, like I said, I don’t care about it. But I can tell you this, I’d much rather fight a MLD then a F-16 or F-18 in pretty much any jet below 12.3

Again, you have to be a US main if you don’t think these jets are a issue at their current BRs.

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You won’t hear me disagree, but the point still stands that these jets are placed far too low.

If any other nation had a jet with non the best weapons and amazing flight performance they would be placed way higher(Italy comes to mind)

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Since were not getting decompresion any time soon, I can see A going 12.7 and C early MAYBE to 13.0 IF it recieves AIM-9Ms, but Hornet, just like MLD gets stomped in uptiers.

12.7 is uptier fiesta against F-15Cs etc. and no matter how much AIM-7Ps are good they are still sparrows.

probably because youre not accounting for the br difference and including mld’s br jet selections for it instead of ones under and also not taking into account that you wont face the f18 at mld’s downtiers

like i said they both are a problem however the problem here is compression at it’s worst
and like i also said, i do find it funny when someone who plays op jet complaints of another op jet

I mean, there is a massive difference between being an OP jet at 11.7 being a 12.7 OP jet. 11.7 is basically having all aspects and can outturn a Phantom. 12.7 having nearly unchaffable Sparrows (I said nearly), AIM 9Ls, and a very good turn time against MiG 29s and other manoeuvrable jets at 12.7

yeah the difference is that now the op jet below gets trashed too in uptiers and the pilot isn’t very happy they’re not as op anymore