I am probably a decent player, and when dogfighting in a ef2000 against a su27/su30sm you win like 8 or 9 out of 10 times…, if you do it without missiles then the ef2000 cant lose if flown properly. I have tested it in a 1vs1.
the ef2000 just keeps alot of energy and gets them much faster back than the su30sm… it has worse acceleration than a su27sm, and thrust vectoring doesnt help…
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i did 4 kills in 2 matches, 3 kills in 6 matches, 2 kills in 3 matches, 1 kill in 1 match and 0 kills in 4 matches this day, so don’t tell me im a noob player, dude.
if u’re fighting high it can helps cuz u can’t stall straight to the ground, at least that what i think.
i saw it’s very useful when doing 1v1
yes, it can help the thrust vectoring, but you dont get the enemy the eurofighter that slow. this energy advantage will cost the su30sm the fight…
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all depends of the pilot. a good Su-30SM pilot could annihilate an EF-2000 pilot.
and viceverse
ofc if the player doesnt know how to deal with r73,r77, G-forces, maxspeed, then the ef2000 pilot will lose. the best thing that can happen to you in a su30sm and a ef2000 is chasing you is either he rips his wings or he commits to much, overshoots and you reverse him with sucess…
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I mean you are the one losing to a 1 trick pony because you are contesting it’s one trick.
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Yeah, a one trick pony with the best missiles in game. At least Rafale and Eurofighters take skill to use
1 trick pony is crazy, having the best a2a AND a2g missiles in the game with an equally great radar (maybe even the best)
Careful, he might get all defensive and say it’s Russia that has the best stuff, because clearly the drag queen R-77-1s are comparable to the undisputed champ of BVR engagements.
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“MICA-EMs are AIM-120Bs with thrust vectoring, France is the most OP nation in-game, at least before the Su-30SM”
Dear god…
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This is certainly a take. MICA is significantly shorter range (~1/3 the effective range) with worse speed loss on account of implementation. But go off.
3/4th
In the absolute best case scenario, sure.
In every other situation? 1/3 is charitable.
No, its about 3/4th’s the range of the AMRAAM, which can vary a bit. However it is never 1/3rd.
Sure, bud.
Dude, even the R-24R is better than the AIM-7 in almost every way—it has better dynamics and speed, ignores chaff less often, and actually has a decent guidance system
And the MiG-23 itself is way faster than the Hornet you can just outrun it by flying below 60 meters. Why are you so scared of a fat F-5 with SARH missiles anyway?
Because it has vastly superior flight performance, missile count, radar, and RWR. And there’s no way it’s a fat F-5, because it seems to be fairly manoeuvrable.
Just because something is faster, doesn’t mean the airframe is better, look at the F-104s if you want an example.
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Applies to the overall balance in the game. For example, something like a MiG-15 will outperform a me262 in terms of flight performance—the same goes for the Hornet.
If the MiG-23 is at the top of the matchmaking list, it dominates; if it’s at the bottom, it suffer, similarly if the Hornet is at the top, it dominates, but at the bottom against 13.7 BR opponent it suffers due to its SARH missiles, which can’t accelerate beyond 2.5M against fox-3
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