F/A-18 ruined 11.7

youre responsible because you continue

Not my fault that some person wants to act like poor America isn’t clearly the most unbalanced nation in Air. It’s always the weirdos that bring up an extremely niche way to make something seem overpowered. He wanted to act like a jet hurling a missile at close range makes it so that is more OP than the definition of a missile boat.

Also, in case you haven’t figured it out, you also derailed the conversation. Now we are arguing semantics since you wanted to be like, “but we are not talking about 11.7” while you are not talking 11.7

Why did they put the sweden F-18 at BR 14 and others at BR 11.7???
So weird.

Just because they’re 12.0 doesn’t make them really 12.0
😿


Regardless, stuff at that rating shouldn’t be facing the F18 on a 1:1 rating. Whether you like the mig 23 or not, it is shafted by this addition, and it is one of the better options at the rating. There will always be an option at the upper end of a rating, Mig 23’s about where it can be in the current compression, and does not warrant ignoring the number of other aircraft shafted by this implementation (host of harriers, host of tornadoes from multiple trees, several Russian attackers).

The F18 in question should have been 12.7 if they aren’t going to do something about compression and the sorry state it leaves the game in.

Yeah rafale is the biggest cancer I’ve faced

I agree the F-18 should have been 12.7. But the focus should be on the F-18 being too low and not that the Mig-23MLD is in some way suffering more than anyone else. Its probably suffering the least out of a lot of 11.3/11.7 aircraft that are being dragged up into the premium spam at the moment.

It gets the best flight-model F-18, and has access to MRAAMs.
I think it should be 12.3 in GRB.

I didn’t say it is suffering more. I highlighted it is shafted by this addition, but even if we think it isn’t shafted that badly, there’s a whole list of things that are and should probably be more the center of discourse (tornadoes, harriers, attackers in general at the rating). So the principle of the F18 being too low is correct, even if we disagree with their example.

I was talking abotu the original post not what you said. sorry for the confusion.

1 Like

It is 0200, I am too sleepy to parse these kinds of things apparently. 😿

Well, if you set your clock to the correct time it wouldnt be 2am. its 3:30pm :P

I am not forced to put up with the English yet. Several years down the line perhaps, but not yet.

1 Like

Your problem is not the BR of F/A-18A, it is the BR compression. MLD (or any other 11.3/11.7 for that matter) cannot really go down any further simply for the fact that it will bully 10.3/10.7 even harder than F/A-18A. They need to increase BR ceiling and narrow matchmaker BR range from 1.0 to 0.7 otherwise you’ll face this issue one way or the other.

1 Like

It’s not any one plane. Compression is really bad for jets. Only naval is worse

It’s a standard move. Top premiums destroy balance because they are OP or players are bots and leave after the first death.

MICA-EMs are AIM-120Bs with thrust vectoring, France is the most OP nation in-game, at least before the Su-30SM

even the eurofighter wins against a su30sm…

you havent unlocked top tier so ofcourse you know nothing about it

2 Likes

You’re opinion on the FGR.2/FG.1 seems way understated. When I played the FGR.2 during the ML/MLD’s prenerf state, I was beating them in almost every scenario outside of instantaneous turn rate.
They couldn’t out rate the FGR.2 if you forced them into an energy fight and sometimes even a flat out turn fight if it was done correctly.
The FGR.2 is one of, if not the best phantom to dogfight with as it doesn’t have problems other phantoms have which is energy retention and thrust.
The Skyflash DF is also a really good missile but most try to use it for BVR, it’s actually intended use is for close range (1.2-6km) launches and getting them in great offensive scenarios.
But if you have any form of evidence to back up that the FGR.2 is one of the worst phantoms in the game, by all means, do tell me.

oh cmon, dude.
u’re going to still bullying me?
someone tell me how to report/flag this guy