no, in general, the mig19 is just better as long as you can aim, even a dogfighting MiG-19 is not a slow MiG-19 if you are intentionally not trying to bleed speed. What you describe can definitely allow you to like F-100 more if it’s more your playstyle but overall I have to say MiG-19 is superior
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rip that jet is now on your 6
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Not really how that works, if you’re a 3rd party I will just hug deck and ratefight until I can get both of you in a position to reverse… Do I need to record gameplay of me flying to y’all?
I adjust based on the circumstance. It is not overly difficult to manage 2 opposing jets in this BR.
Yes I probably should have reworded, its truly better, but at what point do you want something stronger in return for “high skill floor/clunky” if you’ve ever heard the term in FPS games. Like same debate happened on this reddit post of best plane at x.x rating with this guy who did tournaments saying mig 15 blatantly better than f86 and yeah sure, but for the average player/especially someone playing their first jet at that rating you’re probably going to have the better time in f86 which can just spam 50 cal, outruns everyone, and rolls well. Sometimes I get a brain hemmorage in shenyang f5 because the guy is so close but I just miss using the slow velocity guns
What are you on? F-15 is clearly the king of 14.0, unless you think the ability to turn a little faster is better than being able to outrun missiles while being able to spam the best missile in game.
rafale
mica
ralph and mica are in the running but not undisputed
Never said that. I said it is not wildly op
Someone’s mad they got Magic 2 to the back.
I mean everyone with some top tier experience knows how strong the Rafale is after the like 5 billion buffs it got with the last update. It’s easily a big contender for the best 14.0 aircraft.
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Ah yes, the plane that shows up once every blue moon since no one even plays France is far superior to the F15E/I spam with the AIM 120Bs.
Let me guess, you also think the Grippen is the best jet too.
The undisputed king of close/medium range fighting vs a one trick pony BVR fighter that has it’s one trick now contested by the EFT and Su-30SM.
Yes I’m picking my rafale over my F-15E/I.
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I don’t discount the MICAs, they are quite literally the biggest threat within 10km, and those Magic 2s are practically unflareable from behind, but that’s only in a niche setting. In 1v1 Tournament style, yes the Rafale will dominate, just as the Grippen had dominated that theatre, and Mirage as well. However, go outside the Tournament playstyle, and the F-15E/I is the big baddie. BVR engagements, Pubs in ARB and GRB, the F-15E/I with AIM 120s are the superior aircraft.
Grippens can only do so much with it’s 4 Fox 3s and underperforming radar (compared to F-15E/I).
Rafale has a chance if it can break into the 10km range, but the problem is, is that the F-15E/I can climb so bloody high, go well beyond Mach 2, that by the time you can get a lock, either the F-15E/I is already spamming AIM 120Bs, or the plane is flying away from you at an unfathomable speed, and notching.
Eurofighter is in the same boat as the Rafale. Sure, the Eurofighter can turn real good, but it cannot contend with a F-15E/I that is in bloody orbit.
Sure, I’ve seen F-15E/Is being shot down, but that’s because of three things.
1: classic American main: fly high and straight into battle without thinking. Basically how people played the F4S when that was meta: fly high, spam as many missiles as you can, if you get eliminations, yay! If not, boo! Fly back to base, or accept the incoming missiles.
2: deciding to fly low. Why? God knows why, they decide that being exposed is a very terrible strategy, so they fly low with the other jets and then discover that they are really bad at dog fighting. Proceeds to get MICA’d and cry on the forums that France is OP.
3: former wallet warrior: they spent so long grinding in the F4S to get the meta jet, but has not learned a bloody thing about anything, beyond bombing bases and crashing to get into a new match and repeat that they forgot that part of the game requires to use a missile and use countermeasures, both of which they don’t have keybinded.
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I think the Eurofighter has more of a chance against F-15E/I than Rafale.
Because he’s saying most BR ranges in top tier ARB has mostly been dominated by US aircraft… now even 12.7.
ok he can make another post if he wants to talk about high top tier
this isnt about rafale or f15i
It would be a lot easier to take the thread seriously if creator didn’t have a certian history. Seems like everything that kills them suddenly is either OP or ruins the BR bracket.
OP: American prem jet ruined 12.7
Me: American premium jets not only ruined 12.7, but have ruined everything from 9.3 with the A-10, all the way to top tier.
You: what does talking about American jets have anything to do with the original post about American jets?