cuz the Su-27 was at 12.7 when it was released, and it bullied the MiGs
i was actually very interested earlier however i’ll be going for the su-33 first
sucks? that is how people felt when they had to play against the mld earlier
sure the su27 bullied aicraft below it
and the migs bullied aircraft below it
but the mig users only started complaining because they started feeling how another op plane feels like
they never cared about how others feel when facing the mld
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Now play a Mig-23MLD vs a Sea Harrier FRS1e, or F-104G or F-4E or Mirage IIIE.
It goes both ways
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lol, u’re going to skip the MiG-23MLD and go straight to the Su-33 so u don’t need to experience what im experiencing rn?
lol, ur hypocrecy is lvl: SUPER GOD OF THE WORLD
no i meant im going su33 first and then grinding the russian air tree
im busy grinding uk tree, first i will grind that. the su-33 is a squadron vehicle and is getting grinded, i got bored of people complaining about the sukhois being trash so i will be giving that one a try and then ill grind the russia air tree
however ive seen enough MLD to know that it trashes some other aircraft and now youre getting trashed so you get to feel the same
Both F-18s should go up in BR, because it really isn’t fair to be facing one in a J-8B or most other 11.3/11.7 planes. Maybe the premium one could get 9Ms, and the TT one could get Aim-7Ps to compensate.
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Sea Harrier has good maneuverability and can use VTOL mode to do better turns
F-104G can outrun every single plane in the game and do to the reason that has countermesures u just have to fly low
F-4E is just too op, 4 radar missiles and 4 IR missiles, if u keep urself out of the dogfights, u’re safe
Mirage IIIE is just suffering, but u can get the Rafale after playing with the Mirages
That is, when you were causing chaos on 11.0 it was fun, but now that a worthy opponent has appeared it’s not fun anymore? I also cried when I couldn’t fly to the center of the map on my first Phantom because I was being destroyed by a swarm of MiG-23MLs, and I couldn’t do anything to counter them, my missiles weren’t firing forward and weren’t catching up with them from behind.
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so u’re saying im suffering what i deserve?
Sub-sonic with only 2 missiles and an IR signature that takes 8+ flares to defeat a single R-60M
All it can do is run away, it cannot fight
God knows how you think this is OP. Stay low and its radar wont even see you, let alone allow you to fire
And you can just get the Su-30SM after playing the Migs.
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after playing with the Su-17M4 u can get it, not the migs, mf
im just saying the mld made people suffer, now youre just feeling what others felt
the people who dont deserve it are ones who dont play op aircraft and have to suffer from op aircraft. the ones who need to feel it are op aircraft players
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and don’t cry, pls.
France has one of the first planes with radar missiles at an extremely low br
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wrong you get the 29 smt in the mig line if you want the Su-30 you have to play the Su line
You have clearly not played any F-104, because even the Mig-21bis is faster. They’re the worst supersonic jet airframe in the whole game.
I partially agree. The difference between an F-4E and Mig-23MLD is much less than the difference between a Mig-23 and F/A-18.
what is this?
anyone who plays rus air tree would have both lines researched because you need more than one line researched to reach that high due to tier locks and that is what he meant
you can indeed get to sukhoi line
idk, read this yourself
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idk why u’re talking about the 23MLD if u never used it, u’re going to skip all the grind to use the Su-33 and test if the Sukhois are really trash but u aren’t going to buy the 23ML or something to see if the Mikoyans are trash
That’s not true, because I’ve been able to flare stuff way easier than what people say. I’ve only had issues with 9Ls, Pl-5s, and Magic-1s at close ranges.
It’s a skill issue if you need more than 2 and a slight turn.
They’re also one of the worst missiles in the entire game, and it’s not like the Vautours are OP either (most are 8.3s at 9.0).
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Nope. @MatrixRupture tested it with some help. At 420 kts (a fairly typical dogfighting speed for a harrier) it takes at least an 8 flare burst to defeat a rear-aspect fired R-60M fired from 3km.
That is the extent of the IR signature issues we are facing at the moment.
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