its still not a garantee that it wont just retrack. also depends on how the flare is dispensed. if its thrown away from the plane it does better
i find it rare for missiles to retrack unless your slow as your usually out of its FOV or it runs out of energy
still a risk best not taken
i mean its a risk for a mig 21 to dogfight a F5 its far easier of a method to hit it from above with BNZ gun run like props thats how i usually take them out
Yeah, only reason it’s weird is the Taiwanese F-5A at the same BR gets AIM-9P. It’s the exact same plane otherwise, but the Thai one was stuck with 9E because Gaijin decided to copy it from the US one.
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9P-4 is realistic option
Whats curious is that this bs happens in grb as well. Like how the hell f5t scu and f5e sit on same br despite f5e being much worse. It doesnt even get ability to set target point on map. You always have to point your nose strictly on target to see them in that horrid agm65b optics. And missiles are rear aspect garbage.
I have a weird feeling that devs sometimes just forget about older vehicles until players rub devs face in this.
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And for that reason, it’s not good in Warthunder.
It’s not egocentric bias or Ad Hominem. You’re struggling to fight a plane that other aren’t. The only Logical conclusion that any reasonable person should come to is skill issue.
It isn’t ‘not good’, it is good but a bit outdated, and needs polishing, such as new missiles, or decompressions, to let those F-5 breathe better.
Oh, if you really want to quotemining again, go on then.
No, it is classic case of egocentric bias, you always come up in F-5 topic and says same thing
‘I really wonder why every noobs whine about F-5, even I am a bad player, I had no problem to fragging them.’
Like Sharif, who dislikes raga sound, while others Rock the Casbah.
How the heck did you end up with this conclusion?
What I was talking about in this thread was
1- F-5C shouldn’t buff down to 10.3 directly
2- But I can agree with OP about the missile upgrade, it is double standard that NF-5A or F-5A(ROCAF) has AIM-9J equivalent when F-5A(Thai)and F-5C(USAF) stuck with AIM-9E.
You are framing me into silly frame, I never told that I am struggling against F-5 here,
Well, perhaps I claimed that months ago when I was arguing with you while I was flying SHAR,
Because SHAR is a mirror dimension of F-5, has the same ahistorical FM but in an underperforming-opposite way, and relies on a pair of AIM-9L instead of dogfighting capability.
When F-5 easily flare AIM-9L off thanks to ion-fusioned engine, SHAR in WT has basically no chance against F-5, while SHAR IRL kicked F-5’s ass. btw, discussing SHAR further is no more than derailment, so I will not speak about SHAR in this topic unless it is urgently needed.
Anyway,
I say again, if you want to propose a proper idea to make F-5C better but not overpowered, I will happily discuss that with ya
But if you came here for nothing but trolling. Jog off.
If you choose to being second part, I will not reply to you any further unless you invents things.
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sitting around mach 1 consistently is still more than enough when all its BR peers cant do that
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Projection.
Because people always make the exact same silly arguements. “Waaah its engine heat is innacurate” “Waaah it’s too hard to shoot down” “Waaah its FM is innaccurate”
Most supersonics at the 11.0 area can reach Mach 1.3, or atleast Mach 1.1. The F-8E, which matches the F-5 in speed, has double the missiles, and better missiles.
The few subsonics either have very good missiles like the A-10A and Su-25, or were just completely forgotten like the A-7D.
can they keep that up in a turn like the F-5 does?
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Their speed allows them to control the fight, and their missiles allow them to attack without getting in gun range.
The F-5 is the equivalent of shortening your sword so you can “attack quicker.”
actually its slower than F5 on the deck
the STR of the F-5 means that its not long before their speed and agility owns the fight.
coldest IR signature of any plane at the BR by a lot and radars blow ass that low so one flare and one chaff will subvert the missiles.
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Its a gunfighter
It does well in that aspect
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Being a good gunfighter doesn’t make it good. The B-29 is a good bomber, but it still sucks cause this isn’t a bomber game.
last I heard F-5s were undertiered but whatever you say man
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They’re not undertiered, not by a long shot. The F-5E already faces 12.0 PD radar slingers that outrun F-5s btw, whilst being armed with only two 9.3 missiles.
last I checked the F-5 beats all of those in a df, which still happen in those br ranges