The F-5 is strong for 10.7
Its just a gun fighter, not a missile slinger
Which people don’t seem to get
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This is a completely dumb argument
Why would Gaijin do this
Yes, that’s the whole point, it’s an extremely exaggerated version of this entire threads argument.
The OPs argument is that because Gaijin added F-5s with better missiles at the same BR the originals should go down and doesn’t seem to get that they are at their BR for their guns so giving new ones better missiles should put them up, not the old ones down.
Oh yeah,
Completely agreed here
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yep, I was just making an extremely exaggerated hypothetical example for the OP as they are very insistent that the originals should go down.
This is a classic example of “x is ‘better’, so my y vehicle must go down” while disregarding the fact that x is already good at its br
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If it were in any way possible to give it a previously unused BR it would be good, if they were lets say 10.6 they would be good, they wouldn’t see 11.7s but also wouldnt club 9.3. There are several other examples of these that could be implemented.
Nope.
Sorry, but just because you personally suck at fighting them, doesn’t mean they’re OP.
Seems you rolled a natural 1 on your perception check.
Critical failure.
F-5 has an overperforming FM and ion-fusion level of a cooled engine
I reckon I explained about
easy to kill =/= plane is sucks
well
in F8F-1 topic
Do you really want to play ‘Scott Pangolin vs The World’ again in here?
no thanks
Uhh, ok? It’s fighting planes that were introduced after it was retired.
R-60MKs lock it just fine. Again, that’s simply your skill issue.
Do you really want to continue whining that every U.S. vehicle in the TT is overpowered to no end, instead of actually learning how to fight em?
Because the dogfighting capability of the F-5 is good enough to turnfight shits down.
THANKS TO OVERPERFORMING FM than IRL for YEARS.
You didn’t get the point
Yes, R-60MK can lock F-5 just fine.
But it’s heat sig acts bizarre, instantly flares things off with tiny little flare drop
Unlike how Harrier does,
Historically, Harrier has IR lock restraint thanks to thrusting heats like fumes, and F-5 are just a normal supersonic jet with a reheater.
In War Thunder, the Harrier is a Missile Magnet because it has problems with flare things off, while F-5 is almost immune to IR missiles, thanks to the makeshift mechanism of heat-sig in-game. not real heat sig but calculating with thrust. F-5 is a lightweight fighter with a tiny engine, while Harrier is a subsonic VTOL jet which has a big engine.
That is what I meant by Ion-fusion level of cooled engine
Immune from IR lock just like how IRCM works(X)
easy to deal with IR lock (O)
Do you really want to continue whining in every U.S vehicles topics to no end instead of actually learning how you lost the argument?
Jog off.
AV-8B topic, another F-5 topic, F8F topic, and here.
You are playing the same card, quotemining.
It’s slow and has bad missiles at a missile fighter’s BR.
Lost the argument? I’m not so sure about that. You’re the one pathetically losing fights to mid planes than the vast majority of players don’t struggle fighting, even players as bad as myself.
The solution as always is BR decompression. I have like 600+ matches in the F5, and its fine at 10.7.
if the BR goes down it will be totally busted and op
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The Thai F-5A never used the AIM-9E, it only carried AIM-9P in service. This was reported on release, just never changed.
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I say give them all 9ls and move them up to 11.0 like the Swedish f5a.
I think that’s more fair than having a broken fm at a lower br with worse missiles.
About speed, yes, it is slow, barely supersonic, because that is how the F-5 was intended to be designed for
From a cheap interceptor for an aircraft carrier to an export fighter for allies.
To fill the role of the low part of the high-low mix.
And about Missile, because in War Thunder, F-5 has the role of gun-based STR fighter, as @Caernarvon02 mentioned. (Sorry, Caern, for pinging.)
Not Missile Slinger such as SHAR FRS.1, J-7D, or Bucc S.2B does. F-5 relies on FM, not missiles, unlike those.
It is probably fine to give USAF F-5C and Thai F-5A AIM-9J as an upgrade from AIM-9E, if we consider F-5A(ROCAF), which has the same fuselage but has better missiles in the same BR. As I said to OP.
Just look at the whole thread, not quotemining things off.
Egocentric bias doesn’t help much with the argument, and it is off topic.
And ‘Classic Ad Hominem move’ is a violation of the forum rule, AFAIK.
Anyway, as long as this topic was originally intended to
‘How to improve F-5A/C to fight against counterparts, buff down or give better missiles’
So, OP and others came out with a somewhat kinda of a conclusion of ‘give AIM-9J then’
And you came out of nowhere.
If you want to say how to improve F-5, go on.
If you want to just mess with me without any meaningful conversation, jog off.
strictly speaking most non IRRCCM missiles can be flared without turning
not the first time theyve done this for example the german F4F only ever used 9Ls in service not 9Js
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this is assuming the F5 doesnt get 2v1d not that its a bad dogfighter but its very hard to energy trap someone when they have a teamate
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