F-5C (USA) F-5A (Japan) at 10.7 need to be given the Aim-9J/P or be moved down to 10.3 BR

every one of the 10.7 F-5 Tigers are functionally identical in-game.

China, Japan and France have competent pilots, USA does not. Its generally wise to discard USA plane stats when the identical vehicle is in minor nations as the data pool is too far tainted by low quality participants.

No
F-5C’s BR is on perfect sweetspot by FM.
It needs to stay 10.7 no matter how we get AIM-9J or not

if you feels problem when you fight against MiG-23ML
They are the one which need to go up.
not sending F-5C down

Yes.
If USAF F-5C is fine to steal countermeasures from ROCAF F-5A by ROCAF bugreport in the name of technical compatibility.
Then it wouldn’t be a problem if USAF F-5C and Thai F-5A still AIM-9P from ROCAF either.

The NF-5A is a F-5E at 10.7 with no radar who uses the radar on the F-5E. The F-5A (JP) is mostly the same and the F-5A (CN) has a better Missile all at the Same BR of 10.7

Stockholm_Blend

so we agree that it needs a better missile

I think it would be better for it to receive the AIM-9J rather than be moved down in BR. However, if it doesn’t get the AIM-9J, then it definitely should be lowered.

for realistic battles radar is a placebo unless you have radar missiles.

fair enough the CF-5a has a slightly better missile and should be a higher br than the others from it. However the missile isnt the primary reason for the F-5 tigers being to overpowered, they are a phenomenal STR fighter whose primary weapon is the gun, those missiles are realistically only there to deal with the very few planes of the BR that can outrun it (as none can outturn it)

Still think they should get 9G equals and move the hell away from the suffering planes of that BR bracket, most are doing horrendously because of the F-5 spam

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At 10.7 9E are unusable i haven’t gotten a kill with it in forever

He does not understand that the missiles on the f5 are not its reason for its br and fails to understand it is largely a gun platform which is why all of them are the same br because they pretty much preform the same in gunfighting

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More unique variants are always cool for the game. Wish they did this but they probably don’t want to upset current owners of it

fair, 9E is difficult on the Rhodesian hunter at 9.3 so its going to be worse when your enemies have flares.

they are still FAR from the primary focus of the planes playstyle. its a gun based STR fighter

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Yeah, we agree about this part.

Weeeelll, as a joke with no honesty, I want to let them burn in hell though /j

Of course it is
There is differcence between ‘make them similar’ vs ‘create a beast’.

No, I reckon @Caernarvon02 is explaining well about this.

Frag enemy plane with AIM-9E on F-5C’s BR radius is hard
but missile isn’t the main part of almost any F-5 variants
Of course, a better missile is better,

But if you send F-5C down to 10.3 because of the missile,
F-5C can perform an undefendable choice against planes in the downtier

Fire AIM-9E against a flareless jet
→ If you fly straight, you will die because the missile knows where you are
→ If you turn for evade AIM-9E, you will die because you will lose speed when you turn for evade, then F-5C will gun you down.

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Would still be crazy strong as the 10.0 battles that could deal with its turn is SRAAM. and thats on the very good hunter (but still not even close to a tiger) or tragedy that is GR1 harrier

hunter is 9.3 i should have a 9E

I understand that I end up getting most of my kills with the guns, because the AIM-9E is extremely unreliable at 10.7. But why should the U.S. F-5 and the Japanese F-5 be left with the AIM-9E while other F-5 variants at the same BR get significantly better missiles?

Because Gaijin forgot them
They don’t give a damn about the plane, which they already sold.
:/

Probably premium F/A-18 and Su-30 are their only concerning /j

its not even comparable in performance to the F-5 in flight performance but is played in a similar way.


Gun based STR fighter with missiles that are not the focus, only exist to stop someone running away, locking them into the inevitable death from a dogfight

It really doesnt change how they are used much at all. It could be AIM-9D and the outcome would be almost identical

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True

Dude your trying to compare a 9.3 to a 10.7 i really don’t see your point

this was my comparison as they are played in the exact same way, just a BR apart. Im trying to get you to realise that the missile isnt the main concern but the tasteful mint you get at the end of a meal at a fancy restraunt. A nice little extra that really didnt do much at all

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His point is

Both hunter FGA.9 and F-5C relys on gun HEAVLY
so missile difference wouldn’t big if we think about PLAYSTYLE.

Look at Norwegian blue at 11.0BR, which has AIM-9L

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im glad they are rare.

9L on that platform is terrifying when my best plane around there is the T10… stunned that its not 11.7

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