F-5C (USA) F-5A (Japan) at 10.7 need to be given the Aim-9J/P or be moved down to 10.3 BR

Eternally doomed to suck, seriously.

Which they only face them at uptier.
In Downtier, F-5 can just rip shits off with M39 and FM, while there are planes which flies lot worse than F-5.

perception → fact
overpowered-> overperforming

If you just showed up with no theories but bias american vehicles as usual, jog off, mate.
You will craft shits up just like how you went in the F8F topic.

According to the data provided in the post, the F-5C has the one of the worst win rate and K/D in its BR range.

It’s not overperforming; in fact, it’s underperforming.

The F-5C is also not exactly fast.

Yes, the IR signature definitely needs fixing totally does impact survivability in general.

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dont worry we have a sea harrier missing most of its flight performance and the IR sig of the sun too.

At least the hawk 200 can flare missiles, but has 7.3 flight performance.

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Why? if so it should be more like 10.0 or 9.7

This problem needs to be solved by

addition of AIM-9J for make them tie with F-5C(ROCAF)
and decompression which let F-5 not to face MiG-23ML

not by sending them lower directly (just like how Gaijin buffed F-86A-5 and MiG-15 because of early supersonic jets like F-104A and such )

There are tons of shits which fly worse than F-5, and if we buff her down to 10.3…

the sea harrier has the Aim-9L and the hawk 200 is more of a ground ATK aircraft not air to air

with DRASTICALLY UNDERPERFORMING AHISTORICAL FM, which is even insufficient at 9.7BR (Harrier GR.3)

Yes, but as long as ARB is an air-to-air gamemode, a2g gives nearly-no-goddamn-effect to win
and both Hawk 200 and F-5C shares same BR

‘but it is attacker’ shouldn’t rationalise BR of Hawk 200.

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The F-5 going down in BR, are you crazy?

Well, unlike most here, I can’t support it going up, as after taking the NF-5A out a few times for the event, missiles are worthless(I find they can’t get a kill period, it’s a gun fighter with misleading weapons).

What needs to happen in the BR range needs to be decompressed, as the F-5s are in a sweet spot already.

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Stockholm_Blend

can you tell me why its so bad for the F-5C with a 46% WR and a K/D of .7 cant get a missile that other F-5 have at the same BR.

winrates dont mean anything in air battles.

Kills to death is only beaten by the chinese fishbed, youre reading kills to spawn. which is not exactly a good one to use for getting vehicle performance metrics as the ratio gets dragged down by spawns where the player didnt get a kill or die (AKA did nothing the whole match)

its sustained turn rate is far greater than it should be. Its been reported and gaijin ignored it
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hqLuX2tQIZDa
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/hIzLAh45I9sD

Its top speed isnt remarkable but its average speed is phenomenal. Its STR means its near top speed ALL the time, no other plane other than hunters (which also have too much STR) can pull this off, none of which do it as well until top tier.

im glad we agree there. Theres no point firing IR missiles at them rn


Yes. This is more a problem of compression than ‘F-5C sucks’

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yes it dose

can you answer this

I think its fine not moving down if it gets a missile that other F-5 have at the same BR

Okay, let me give honour to explain

Because of skill issue of US Main players and reputation of OP planes
Everyone bought F-5C with no understanding of jets
because everyone tells it is good

They bombed the base with napalm, or something
A large number of bad sample tattered the statistics.

F-5C was, F-4S was.

I SAY AGAIN

I am FINE to let F-5C have AIM-9J
It is Gaijin who forgot about that.

But about sending them down if we cannot get AIM-9J
No way.

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Two of them yes, but its flight model is one of the worst in game. It should be comparable to the hunter but is more comparable to a brick fresh out of the kiln.

Its a light multirole FIGHTER. not a strike aircraft that can carry missiles like an warthog or frogfoot.

Its also trash for ground strike for its BR, 4x AGM 65B when the A-10 bomber (which is also better as a fighter, it turns real good) gets 6x 65D, theres no metric where the hawk fighters are fair for their BRs

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MB still .9 tho which is lower than all the other F-5s

you misread the info.

Kill to spawn isnt the same as Kill to death.

Im better at flying than F-5C most i have a 1.4 or 1.5 KD in the jet and playing it now it needs to go down or be given a better missile

IK that’s why i said MB the K/D is .93? like i said