J7D is like a mig21mf with better missiles, it can’t change too much when it against the F5C, whatever PL5/7 could be easily impacted by flares as R60.
The issue is when MIG21BIS at 11.0, you can’t make J7D at the same BR, maybe F5C could add AIM9J as F5A, I promised almost 99% players don’t know that F5A(CN) has AIM9P but at same BR
The PL-7 has better flare resistance than the PL-5B. I run 2 PL-5Bs and 2 PL-7s because there are just as many situations where a PL-7 is better than a PL-5B as there are situations where a PL-5B is better than a PL-7.
The job of the PL-7 is not long range shots, it’s insane dogfight performance.
There isnt a missile in the game below 12.0 that takes more than 1 flare to defeat … You dont even need flares or even hard turns to defeat AIM-9E
AIM-9M on the A-10C at 11.7
Magic II on the Jaguar IS at 11.3
R-73 on the Su-25BM at 11.3
Can defeat those or stop the shot in 9M’s case with 1 flare in many cases headons being a single example but there are others especially if not supersonic
So by your logic a one off rare chance one tap flare means every missile on game can easily be flared with a single pop.
Yeah no dude.
J7D was perfectly balanced at 11.0, i don’t know why they lowered it to 10.7 and hasn’t lowered the A5C too that is still at 10.7 having to try to outrun F4E and Tornados that have a better acceleration than A5C to get bases on the slight uptier (which happens a lot), and facing R24R from Mig23ML on full uptiers
J-7D is much more superior than F-5C. You basically with F-5C can’t vs J-7D win in 1v1 if the pilot is not complete noob. Playing with F-5C all the time against MIGs-21, J-7D etc. you fell like in high tiers, your plane is slow and has only two arrows. J-7D with same BR is joke.
Considering the F-5 has vastly better dogfight performance, as well the fact it’s basically immune to IR missiles, you shouldn’t be losing against a J-7D. The J-7 has a weak engine and terrible energy retention, making it easy prey for an F-5.
You talk nonsense and even dont have that plane. There is no immunity to IR missiles, if you dont use flare u are dead… This topic is about F-5"C" not other varriants. F-5C is just garbage.
Due to the F-5s low heat signature, you will be able to easily flare every missile you meet. In a 1v1 where both players know where the other is, the f-5 will win.
I’m talking based on my experience fighting F-5s (which is alot).
F-5 has basically stealth engines. It takes an extreme amount of effort to lock onto and any flare instantly gets anything off you.
I think actually that the ppl that think F-5C are garbage are usually the garbage pilots tbh
Probably the best gunfighter in the game, get good
Have been playing the new Thai F-5A, which is almost the same as the F-5C (slightly less powerful engines?)
9Es are pathetic at the BR, but it definitely doesnt need to go lower. Anyone who says the guns are bad is off their rocker. The guns are probably some of the best in the BR range, plenty of ammo, good damage, and they are by far the easiest guns to aim of any jet Ive flown. The only other downside is that yes its a bit slow, but its engines are magically stealth cold so missiles have a hard time locking it and flaring them is easy as hell, AND the damage model of all the F-5 variants is kinda busted.
Also been flying the squadren F-5E FCU for a while now, which gets better engines so its faster, and it is totally not the most busted plane in the game right now, nope gaijin nothing to see here dont raise its BR it definitely doesnt need it, 11.3 is fiiiineeee.
J35xs is a better dogfighter in my opinion but the f5c can actually flare 2 missile without running out of flares. They should either add more flares to j35xs or move it down in br cuz that machmaker is kinda ass
Under no circumstances should the J35XS be the same BR as the J35D. It has absolutely no place at 10.3.
And the 10.7 matchmaker is fine.
Nonsense is the correct word for F-5C. Because it’s a no brainer jet.
The only weakness are the missiles.
The only reason it’s 10.7 are the braindead players using them to bomb bases, flying with gunpods or other stuff and the bunch of unexperienced players buying it.
I have no idea which F-5C you are talking about, but i can assure you after playing 213 matches with it that its NOT “durable like hell”. There are also more than just a hand full of planes that can outturn the F-5C. All J-35s, all J-7s, all F-5E/Ts, some or maybe all Mirages / Kfirs. Thats quite a lot considering that half of the game currently consists of these OP J-7Ds. Saying the J-7 is easy prey for the F-5C is just a lie that WAS true some while ago, but isnt anymore. Even if the J-7 is losing the turnfight (It wont), it can still just run away with its UFO acceleration.
I have to agree that the F-5 can easily 1-flare every missile and that the 20mm gun is extremely good, but thats it.
Oh, and it also doesnt keep speed as well as many people claim. The J-35 for example doesnt lose much more speed after one full turn, i tested these myths just recently. J-35s keep flying pretty well even below 400 kph while the F-5C will fall out of the sky below 600 kph. And guess what, the F-5C will be at roughly 600 after just one full turn when starting at 1000 kph. So unless it manages to kill the opponent within 1 full turn - all the F-5C can do is press J.
It really doesnt help that all other opponents can just run away being twice as fast if they cant outturn the F-5C, or the fact that there are MiG-23s everywhere throwing invisible R-24r at you that you dont even see coming. IMO the F-5A/C really feel like underdogs at 10.7 right now. Putting them on 10.3 would give them the chance to see MiG-19s and F-100s, which isnt good, so we need more decompression, but putting the F-5s into an uptier in 100% of all games is no solution either.
Nobody talks about it would be the fastest and best turning plane.
And nobody says it’s untouchable.
Go mach .9x, turn and hold speed, and you will see, there are not many planes can follow.
Durablitiy: The F5 is the only plane I saw rtb after eating 2 or 3 Missiles.
that was a long time ago, 1 missile is enough 9/10