Ah wait, thoses are the ones more related to magics right?
Better though i would still much prefer aim7e2 with worse IR on a platform i work better with.
thats pl7, the pl5 is derived from the aim9l, i agree though those 4 sparrows are invaluable
i’ll admit the F-4E stock isn’t the best
When its spaded its a great plane for 11.3
both 11.0 and 11.7, funny enough.
You mean 4 of the best (or atleast second best) non-irccm all aspects?
The mig23m…sure
Im not even sure there are that many non-irccm all-aspects (not counting copies)
I would put the r-40td, aim9l, and python over the r60m. Not sure if china get any unique stuff
They aren’t better than the 9Ls, or the Pythons. I’d also argue they are worse than the R-40TDs since they lack the range and have the same flare ability. So. At the very most the 4th best?
R-60M and Python 3 are good for the same reason. Immediate G-pull. It’s difficult to imagine a scenario where Python 3 would kill that R-60M wouldn’t.
9Ls are objectively dogshit. Russia mains are just too brainrotted to admit that have good missiles.
With 10 more G of pull and 3x the thrust, i think the python can be safetly fired at longer ranges and tighter situations.
And this is where preference is different.
I like having range over instant pull. This why my top favorite IR missiles are stuff like r40td, r27et, aim9d ect.
I did not say anything regarding BR changes and neither did I agree to any statement from the post. What I suggested Yettakril to do was to avoid playing phantoms. Please read replies carefully before making completely wrong judgements
But you imply the F-4E is difficult to learn or use when its quite simple
Never meant that. Sitting there for few hours to figure out how to make a jet work is simple for you, and also simple for me. But it is not simple for everyone. Some people may find it tiring or meaningless for example. I was talking about people’s personal feeling when playing the game, not anything about the vehicle itself. I advise him to skip the phantoms, in case he feels overwhelmed or something, that doesn’t mean I think phantoms are too weak.
I skipped F-4J completely. Why? I don’t wanna stock grind first few modules using aim9d, that’s it. But does that mean F-4J is bad? No, I know it is a powerful jet at its BR, it works brilliantly. Did I make this clear to you?
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In this game there are really few planes that are so easy to use that don’t require any learning curve tbh. Especially when they are stock, you are going to spend the first 50-100 matches trying to spade your jet and understand what works and what doesn’t
It’s not even lol
I gave you an example for you to understand my point better. If you disagree with everything I said, well then you are always correct on everything, kindly ignore everything I said
Are you insecure? I’ve only pointed out specific things I disagree with. No need to project whatever it is you’re doing onto others just because other people disagree.
Well looks like there’s never gonna be anything we both agree on. I find this discussion meaningless so I quit. Please assume I agree with everything you said
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Patronizing the other person won’t make you look good in a conversation. You’ve just came off as rude and insecure about your opinions.
Whatever man, you are right and I agree with you
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See:
I will repeat this until you stop replying, sound good? You should probably stick to not having opinions.
Yes I fully agree with you
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