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Doesn’t matter how you think of me, I always agree with you honey
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Yeah absolutely. I remember I had a hard time with JA37C first. After getting the skyflashes and learning how to use radar, it is an absolute beast
Kinda sad to see how BMPT being added to the game though, that thing seems to have no learning curve especially when it was first added
Patrick? That you?
I am fairly new to the F4E having only had it about 1 month and I have about 60 battles in it. I am finding it a real struggle and my KD is less than 1.
Most people on this thread say the aim 7E2 is a good missile and it is good when I can the radar to lock a target. I find the radar really unreliable. On some maps like Suez that are flat I find that I am unable to lock anything if I am near the ground even if my target is above me. On hilly maps like mysterious valley I find it easier to get a lock but it is still inconsistent and rocky pillars map seems broken because I can get locks when looking down at a target.
Other things I have learnt are:
1.I face 12.0 matches the most frequent where everyone has better radar and better missiles because of premium planes like F4S and F1C 200 and Mig 23 ML.
2.The Mig 25 spam makes using your sparrows difficult. Every game has 3 or 4 Mig 25s in it dominating high alt. So I mostly sculk around at low level.
3.If you see a Mig 23 going headon with you then be ready for an R24R to be fired at you at very close range. It has happened to me quite a few times now where I line up to use my gun and take an R24R to the face.
4.As soon as I try to dogfight anybody I get third partied. No matter if I check around before committing to the fight there is always someone unspotted who appears like magic out of the clouds and guns me down.
5.As soon as I go above 500m I feel like everyone with a radar missile fires it at me. Again I find using the sparrows really hard because if I have to gain alt to keep the target locked I become the focus of every SARH missile in the match and end up going defensive to stay alive.
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Stay away from the fur ball. I usually try to come in from the side once planes are spotted pick off someone who is distracted and then fly off and gain some separation. As soon as I get tunnel vision chasing a kill that is when I get an IR missile in the back.
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The Aspide is the bane of my life. For some reason the J8B can lock me up even at very low level as soon as I am above multi path height even though the spec sheet says it has no PD mode and once launch I get no time to notch. Be aware of the J8B.
I could really do with more helpful advice on how to be successful with the F4E.
I just spaded the kurnass and I essentially played it in uptiers as a ground hugging mobile at the start of the game since you can’t really contest the r24/r40 in a bvr duel given how chaff resistant they are
you use the sparrows for oppurtunistic shots on people higher than you and going headon
inbetween that you play it as an ir slinger or you try to get oppurtinistic gunshots on people already engaged without dropping your speed
you cannot afford to drop your speed early game, you’ll just get melted
in downtiers you can afford to fly high and smack people with radar missiles, really helps your team if you can get rid of orbital j7d’s
You can just notch them
Just prenotch or use terrain/multipathing
Yea cause you’re doing it early/mid game and not late game. You can’t dogfight early/mid game in any jet.
Yes. Learn to notch.
Don’t fly down mid then, flank
F-4E can do the same thing the same way
Thats the issue. You should climb.
Its only early gen PD radar, notch + chaff defeats it all the same.
MiG-23 radar gets PD (MTI mode) only when looking against ground at certain alt; otherwise its standard chaffable radar
F1C has MTI radar sure but it also gets its issues and more importantly its missiles are pulse guided - they dobt trigger RWR the same way CW guided radar missiles would and are extremely prone to chaff.
Its radar is derivative of MiG-23s I believe, do it has the same issues
Yes.
Higher in BR you go less you should dogfight and more you should keep your speed.
Sounds more like positioning issue tbh.
Yes.