F-4E Battle ratting to high

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The least patriotic turkish man

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Easily defeated, again, lost lock at positions that neither my Bison nor my Tornado and neither the Hawk 200 RDA loses lock in.

Same thing. I didn’t notice much a difference between them when I was using it before I got my Tornado F.3

I’ve had no issues when not flying the Tornado, even a Phantom can roll it, best way to defeat them, that or just get them to smack the ground with some janking, harder to do with SuperTEMPs and Aim-7F/M but doable.

I said “Missiles”. The Aim-9G’s they get are a single flare away from being defeated and are way out of their depth at 12.0.

Easy to notch it. Wasn’t a great radar to use especially since I have access to far, far better radars at the same and lower BRs.

They should because BR Decompression isn’t going to happen. The British Phantoms are there to force players to GE past them or to buy the Mig-21 Bison.

Provided it tracks the target you have locked lmao

I addressed that, this point is made moot by the fact that the gunpod ruins your flight performance enough. Again, the FGR.2 was just pain from stock to spaded, it was not fun to fly, the radar was barely serviceable, it lost lock easily, the Skyflashes did their own thing, the gunpod hurts it a lot and it has IR missiles that should be in a BR much lower than it.
It has ZERO business being at 12.0. If it had the Aim-9Ls then it could sit at 12.0, the FG.1 still needs to go down anyways because it never received Aim-9Ls.

The Tornado F.3 should go up to 12.3 but it needs its flight model to be reworked before that happens.

Wow, what a topic, what insane opinions.
The F-4E is fine where it is. While I only have a 2KD in it ( ground RB sucks) its been one of the most consistent planes since the moment it got added into the game ( god damn its been a while lol).
L2P issue, keep playing it and learn how to work around it’s deficiencies

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because of the aforementioned lack of SARH missiles. forcing a f4 primarily into fox2 combat in an airframe that isn’t particularly the best for dogfighting.

That’s how the game should be played. However Gaijin’s business mode says otherwise. They are making more brainless vehicle’s like BMPT-72 for players to buy. Our dedication in our loved vehicles is nothing in compared to the power of money

I quite literally listed the differences in my post here.

Only if they notch or go cold.

The AIM-7E(1, first model, what you keep referring to) is not the same thing as the AIM-7E2, none the less the Skyflash. I listed how they are different.

Almost every IR missile at 12.0 is a 1 flare.

On worse platforms

The alternative is NOT making BR compression worse and these jets NOT going down. So again, ask for decompression.

It usually does.

It’s a SIDEgrade to the F-4EJ. The F-4EJ has advantages, the F-4F has advantages.

also larger proxy fuse radius

You and Normandy . . .

F4e is strong as hell at 11.3. skill issue

ehh, it’s more so bottom of the top 5. Very strong plane but there’s far better.

At 11.3?

J-7, AJ37, and MiG-23 are deffy better (from my experience fighting them in other planes).

4 r60s isnt too bad. Though i dont like the mig21 platforms

Which one because i dont think any are 11.3

I would sure hope the 11.7 one is better than an 11.3 jet

Neither are lol. Ones 11.0 and the others 11.7.

And I certainly would not argue that the 11.0 one is better as it only gets two radar missiles and 4 of the worst all aspects in game OR 6 of the worst all aspects in game. You’re only benefit is your flight model and even then. But that doesn’t matter when you have a Sparrow sticking so far in your tailpipe your pilot may as well be riding it.

wouldnt he be taking it to the face

Depends on the situation, but sometimes. It’s more fun to say the rear end.

“I can’t be bothered to learn, so buff the plane until it’s so OP I can brainlessly curb stop everything I face”
That is simultaneously the dumbest and most honest reason I think I’ve ever heard for a BR change, because let face it, that’s the real motivation behind 90% of the buff-X posts.
LOL, guess that hit too close to home

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i assume you mean JA37, i can understand the ja37 as it does counter the f4e but the j7e2? i think its more even, its definetly a much stronger airframe with potent fox 2s, but the f4e get 8 missiles, 4 of which are extremely good aim7e2s, i think it can have much more impact on the match in most hands.

mig23ml is a no brainer its just a plain upgrade in most ways.

j7 gets pl5bs, much better than r60s

unless youre a mig23 in which case you have an aura of fear which means readar missiles aim so far in front of you that they miss with the slightest maneuver