F-16V Should be placed at 14.0 in ARB

In my opinion the f-16V placed at 14.3 within the China Air tree should have its battle rating re-adjusted from 14.3 to 14.0. There are a few different reasons, but the primary one is flight performance.

The F-16V very notably is equipped with the older F100-PW-220 compared to the F100-PW-229 featured on the f-16CM POBIT found in the U.S tech tree at the same battle rating. This gives the POBIT a significant performance bonus in speed and acceleration which simultaneously offsets the weight of the avionics upgrades on the jet.
(Relative Engine Performance Sourced From Statshark)

The Increased weight combined with the inferior engine gives the aircraft the worst flight performance of any of the f-16 Variants featured in game. Previously lackluster flight performance was the main reason cited for the Lowering of the F-16I down to 13.7 from 14.0. I see no reason for a F-16 with even worse flight performance to remain at 14.3 Despite the improved weapon armament. Especially when outclassed by flight performance AND weapons kit by every other plane at 14.3.

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Dont think theres enough of a difference between the jets for a BR change

Look at f16As with 45CMS and the NETZ mod with all the CMs. Probs just another pay to win example but shows even with big differences GJ doesn’t care for balance

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Not while having an AESA radar and the AIM120D

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The f-15GE and f/a-18E are placed at the same battle rating with double the missile counts basically the same radar and in the case of the F-15GE a significantly better FM along with more countermeasures (Not including the f-16 BOL pods that don’t let you bring 6 missiles). At 14.0 there’s mirage 2000’s with 6 MICA’s so I fail to see how 6 aim-120D’s on a lethargic flight model would be broken in any way at 14.0.

You do realize the F-2A is at 13.7 with an aesa radar and AAM-4s, which after the fox-3 buffs, are just a sidegrade to the AIM-120? And the Kfir C10 is at 13.0 with an aesa radar and derbies, which should be getting a buff soon which will make them slightly better for the current meta than AIM-120s. The F-16 PoBIT and the F-16V would be fine at 14.0.

I mean just to compare the F-2A to the PoBIT, the F-2A has an extra 2 missiles, although the PoBIT can take a full load of fox-3s whereas the F-2A is forced to carry a 50/50 split of fox-2 and fox-3. The F-2A has a much better flight model. And the PoBIT has a slightly better radar. It would work fine as a 14.0

They’re worse

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What a terrible comparison.

The F2A is 13.7 because its engines are terribly weak, it doesnt have an HMD and it has 4 fox 3’s.

And the Kfir C10 is at 13.0 with an aesa radar and derbies

Derbies are not comparable to 120D’s at all. In the current state of the meta i would consider them the worst high tier fox 3 in the game since they weren’t buffed at all last major.

The Kfir is a very strong plane, but its very limited to only 4 missiles in total.


Yeah it sucks to fight planes with double your missile count, but it will be a very strong plane if it goes down in br alone (with no further decompression).

Mig29G vs Pobit is crazy

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It isn’t (Unless we mean sim, but this isn’t a sim convo)
It was only really strong at 13.0, at 13.3 it just became mediocre tbh
Now that derbies are garbage it’s just bad

As a MiG-29 fan I will win that fight trust

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Yeah i guess it isnt as good as it used to be in RB, especially after the derbies were left alone.

Its the year of the falcrum i heard, the pobit doesnt stand a chance

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My guy, the F-2A has the same engine as the F-16CM. Which in turn has a better engine than the F-16V.

What is true though is that the F-2A has a lot more drag, so the acceleration for the F-2A is actually worse than an F-16V, especially at higher altitudes/speeds

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Kfir is not a strong plane in the slightest, even before missile changes it was a gimmick plane that relies on its opponents being bad/distracted. The moment neither is true the kfir is borderline useless.

Even at 14.0 and no decompression it will be mid.

Calling Mig29G vs PoBit/16v crazy is an opinion of all time when it can face su27sm/j10a/j11b in a partial uptier, or even su27/33 at its own br.

no HMD and the AAM-4 is now worse than the amraam due to pulling less

it is 13.3

Its 13.3

I know, hence the screenshot

The f-16V has the worse F100-PW-220 which gives it a worse thrust to weight than even the F-2 while not having any of the benefits of the F-2’s flight model.

You forgot that the F-2 has way more drag. Yes 16V does not have the F-2’s turn nor retention, but it is definitely faster.

F2 doesn’t have HDM

The F-16V is literally the F-16 MLU Block 20 with an AESA radar and 30+ countermeasures, whereas the F-16 PoBit is better overall.