Some double standards imho. Planes like grippens, ef, made equal for balance, but all F-16s are different.
These pylons don’t really matter it just allows the use of more missiles when carrying two Maverick and compared to the other F16s of the same BR it is the worst
According to this doccument the APG-68 can track up to 10 targets in TWS mode for AMRAAM deployment. But im not sure which version of APG-68 they are refering to. Its probably the First version of APG-68 due to the wording in the doccument and how they give no specifics on which version.
https://www.f-16.net/forum/download/file.php?id=42491
Being able to track 10 targets in TWS mode is not the same thing as guiding weapons on them.
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The whole point of TWS is to deploy fox-3s so why would you be able to only deploy 2 when that doc says 10. The radar isnt in STT mode.
Even this Doc says 10
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The datalink might be the limitation. N001VEP can track at least 10, but provide updates for only 2 targets, for example.
What doc is this?
Also, the 10 tracked targets with 10 search targets will be a nerf, because IIRC it can currently track more than 10. Wrong, see this.
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It’s not the only one overperforming in this regard, RDY radar can only track 10 as well on the Mirage 2000-5F irl, but can track more than 10 in-game. A bunch of radars should be hammered down in this regard except for perhaps some of the ESA radars ingame.
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Not really
TWS provides additional situational awareness.
Again, 10 TWS tracks doesn’t mean it can target 10 or 6 simultaneously.
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I am suddenly feeling vengeful for Soviet radars. Maybe I should file another report.
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Yeah To deploy Active radar homing missiles
While this document is for APG-83, I think it would make sense to make all PESA and AESA radars in the game behave similarly unless there are documents to prove otherwise for that specific radar set. (Since this capability is a result of the electronic beam steering which is inherently much quicker than mechanical steering).
According to this brochure from Lockheed Martin, APG-83 can keep tracking and updating the TWS tracks, even after they leave the designated scan pattern (as long as they stay within the reach of the electronic beam steering):
https://omnirole-rafale.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/09/F-16V.pdf
Also it appears that the APG-68 they are refering to is the first version of the APG-68 in game we have the V5 and V7 so theres probably more improvements that were made to the radar to track more targets.
The Doc is from 1984
No
You don’t shoot at everything you see
Situational awareness is not necessarily for weapon employment against all available targets.
And that is very obvious.
Weapon employment requires higher quality tracks, and you can do a much more limited number of those. (since you have to update them more often)
And there is also a limitation in terms of datalink channels.
NVM, I was wrong about APG-66 tracking more than 10 targets in TWS.
Unless I am misremembering what the lines meant (or misunderstood them in the past), APG-63/65/66/68 (63PSP is 4, Baz is 10) all seem to have a limit of 10 targets tracked in TWS (alongside N019 and N001 variants):
AN/AWG-9 can track up to 24.
Interestingly, N010 and N010M can track up to 20.
Thx
Afaik it should be 10 too.
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Where is this from?
Well yeah but the fire controller on the radar can put up to 10 targets in TWS mode for AMRAAM deployment.
Tracking 10 targets in TWS does not automatically mean you can guide missiles at all of them. This is because you need accurate enough data for each target, ability to compute the required data link info for transmission, send that data to each missile (make sure they receive the data and that the data received belongs to each missile). All that has to be done while already doing other TWS stuff with a single antennae. Also, why do you need more that 6 for APG-68, you don’t even have that many missiles?
Here is the limitation of 1-2 missiles for N001VEP from the manufacturer’s website:
10 tracked, 1 targeted, can be increased to 2.
Here is a snippet from Forecast International (I know, secondary source, but using this to show you that data link limitation is a thing that exists. You can probably find more yourself with a deeper search.)
In any case, if you want to prove that APG-66/68 (or any other radar) can send info to more missiles with datalink, you will need to find a source that explicitly states that. Just “can track x targets” does not automatically imply it can guide missiles at all of them.
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