He’s not wrong, it will have by far the worst performance of any 5th gen while carrying equal or worse weapons overall.
It’s radar will also not be particularly impressive, it’s going to be by far the worst 5th gen in game.
well if they give it some newer block 4 stuff, it would be the best ranged 5th gen
maybe equal to or slightly better than Su-57 main array, and will have probably the best multipurpose functionality as a strike fighter AESA
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Might be the worst dogfighter besides the J-20, but it will probably be the best next to the Growler for EW and SEAD.
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Not one of those are exclusive to the F-35 over the F-22.
SEAD makes sense, but why the best next to Growler for EW?
Aim-424 was just seen for the first time 2 months ago, it’s not coming any time soon.
AIM-260 as well, it will probably surpass PL-15 due to it’s body and fins, but PL-16 is rumored to be already in service and superior to it, utilizing a variable thrust rocket engine
Su-57 has the side arrays of byelka providing guidance to the sides and back, the worst one will be F-20 because it has 120° like the Pobit, J-20 has the largest and most powerful array.
I don’t really know what funcionality F-35 will have that the others except the F-22 won’t have.
J-20 has a delta canard design with absurd amounts of lift, with WS-15 it will have a higher ttw than the F-22 and the best in the game if added, i don’t know where this Idea that it has bad performance comes from, it routinely beats all flankers and J-10 in exercises.
EW is also not in game and given that we know next to nothing about Chinese EW, saying that it’s better seems like pure conjecture.
maybe he means individual defense. the F-35 also could use Britecloud decoys as well as its own towed decoys, and any decoy/jammer is going to be even more effective due to the low RCS
yeah there is like 0 info on PL-16 development status. cant just say its operational
a2g and air to sea modes, MADL, and possibly jam modes
you could say the same for the F-22’s more conventional design with an absurd amount of lift
assuming F119 is actually only 35000lb thrust, and assuming WS-15 actually hits 180kN in operational version. in fact, they just said a next gen engine should be between 15 and 18 tons of thrust so it could just as easily be worse than F119
Does it have this in service btw?
unclear, but judging from the statements quoted in this
According to NAVAIR, research to integrate BriteCloud 218 into the F-35 began at the JCC in 2022. “Stammer drove the rapid effort to identify, test and field the system,” it said. “His team took it from initial requirement to the fleet in less than two years."
its either hit IOC or is close to it.
in march 2026 they also awarded a contract for thousands of Britecloud so take that as you will
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Sounds like it’s probably been tested but not yet in service. Still enough for in-game purposes though.
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US adopting britecloud could be absolutely huge considering it does have technical compatibility with all ALE-47. especially with the EX, it could take 180 of them. would need BOL to cover flares and regular chaff though
It’s been said by different PLA watchers and given the PLAAF it could be years until we get any confirmation, i remain skeptical.
Yes but like i said, there is nothing in it’s design that says that it is somehow is worse.
I’d say this is a pretty correct assumption from all we know about it
I haven’t read anything about this?
quotes guy on CCTV. 15 to 18 tons. it actually has a TTW worse than the F-15EX
general technical estimates say that its actually between 36 and 39k lbf.
how will they know about a missile kept inside closed bays?
Why can’t Gaijin get IRST to work on the EX?
IRST is already in the game, how hard can it be to add for a different vehicle… What am I missing
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idk why you are complaining the ef2k has been doing fine against su30sm2 with 12 arh and no launch limits all while having a gimbaled radar
All that’s stopping them from getting AMBER is proof of a functioning example.
I’d say let’s see what the JSI looks like as it has been rumored for those as well, and they can’t use Sta 1 & 9 to increase their missile counts.
It’ll be more accurate than people expect.
People are under-estimating it.
Point in case @Anime_Thighs_OwO spreading misinfo about the F-35.
The only sole negative of the F-35 is its top speed of mach 1.6.
Outside of that top speed, it’ll have among the fastest times to altitude, excellent subsonic flight performance, while sporting 4 radar missiles stealth, & more in beast mode.
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I would say because they’re like apples and oranges. They’re good at different jobs. While the F-35 combines LO, all-aspect ECM, X-band jamming, and sensor fusion to perform deep strikes, the Growler uses it’s jammer pods from standoff ranges to blind radars from a distance and compliment the F-35.
So a typical loadout for the Growler might be 3 ALQ-99 pods with 2 AN/ALQ-218 pods on the wingtips, HARMS and AMRAAM’s, while the F-35 will use it’s built in EW suite the AN/ASQ-239, stormbreakers, AMRAAMS and 9X.
real life doesnt agree with you.
What miss info?
It has similar turn performance to an F-16, poor acceleration, poor thrust to weight, terrible supersonic acceleration, good luck getting past transonic.
The least amount of missiles of any 5th gen, no side bays for IR missiles, fixed plate AESA
It absolutely will have the worst flight characteristics and aa armament of any 5th gen fighter when added.