It’s been said by different PLA watchers and given the PLAAF it could be years until we get any confirmation, i remain skeptical.
Yes but like i said, there is nothing in it’s design that says that it is somehow is worse.
I’d say this is a pretty correct assumption from all we know about it
I haven’t read anything about this?
quotes guy on CCTV. 15 to 18 tons. it actually has a TTW worse than the F-15EX
general technical estimates say that its actually between 36 and 39k lbf.
how will they know about a missile kept inside closed bays?
Why can’t Gaijin get IRST to work on the EX?
IRST is already in the game, how hard can it be to add for a different vehicle… What am I missing
idk why you are complaining the ef2k has been doing fine against su30sm2 with 12 arh and no launch limits all while having a gimbaled radar
All that’s stopping them from getting AMBER is proof of a functioning example.
I’d say let’s see what the JSI looks like as it has been rumored for those as well, and they can’t use Sta 1 & 9 to increase their missile counts.
It’ll be more accurate than people expect.
People are under-estimating it.
Point in case @Anime_Thighs_OwO spreading misinfo about the F-35.
The only sole negative of the F-35 is its top speed of mach 1.6.
Outside of that top speed, it’ll have among the fastest times to altitude, excellent subsonic flight performance, while sporting 4 radar missiles stealth, & more in beast mode.
I would say because they’re like apples and oranges. They’re good at different jobs. While the F-35 combines LO, all-aspect ECM, X-band jamming, and sensor fusion to perform deep strikes, the Growler uses it’s jammer pods from standoff ranges to blind radars from a distance and compliment the F-35.
So a typical loadout for the Growler might be 3 ALQ-99 pods with 2 AN/ALQ-218 pods on the wingtips, HARMS and AMRAAM’s, while the F-35 will use it’s built in EW suite the AN/ASQ-239, stormbreakers, AMRAAMS and 9X.
real life doesnt agree with you.
What miss info?
It has similar turn performance to an F-16, poor acceleration, poor thrust to weight, terrible supersonic acceleration, good luck getting past transonic.
The least amount of missiles of any 5th gen, no side bays for IR missiles, fixed plate AESA
It absolutely will have the worst flight characteristics and aa armament of any 5th gen fighter when added.
when is it going to dogfight in a real game? the F-35 is a SEAD platform primarily not an intercepter
in real world combat configs it has less drag than an F-16 due to the internal weapons bays.
see above^^. All-aspect ECM, ESM, RWR, DL etc. fused together makes up for it.
Mainly true but like I’ve said it’s a SEAD platform and going Mach 1.5+ would degrade stealth because of RAM limits and the Doppler effect. It can carry 8 SDB’s and 2 AIM-260’s which has similar range to PL-15 and Meteor.
And what does that matter to war thunder?
It will be the only 5th gen aircraft the vast majority of nations will get.
You are not going to carry 3 bags in an F-16 in war thunder, it obviously beats an F-16 carrying the same amount of fuel because the F-16 has to carry it in bags, when both are clean they rate and turn almost the same.
This are things that literally all other 5th gen fighters have and a lot of 4.5 gen too.
Doesn’t change the fact that if you go stealth you will have less missiles than the Pobit, the F-22 carries 6 AMRAAMS and 2 AIM-9X, J-20 6 PL-15 with folding wings and 2 PL-10, Su-57 can carry R-37M in the bays and again has 2 side bays for IR missiles.
It’s going to be a decent CAS plane but again, war thunder air battles are not like that, even nuclear thunder isn’t like that.
Germany, Great Britain, Japan, Italy, France, Sweden and Israel will only ever get the F-35
US, Russia and China will be the only nations that will get competitive meta aircraft in the future.
you said
so why does it need to turn fight if it never needs to dogfight?
F-16 is not gonna carry 3 tanks IRL unless its doing A-A or traveling. It’s suited for SEAD w/ HARM’s, JSOWS or SDB in game. Why would it do A-A when the EX or GE is better suited?
so its on par then which is good.
Versus an F-16 et al., the combination of stealth, radar, and the AIM-260 will provide a first-shot opportunity with a missile that outclasses the AIM-120 in every respect. Future upgrades Sidekick racks however, J-20 might be a problem, but Su-57 can only carry 2 R-37M’s.
True I’m sure the players have their own optimistic visions of what the game modes will evolve into.
SEAD with JDAM crazy
The 35 has been tested with third set of amraams in internal bays already so this is definitely valid
6x2 is comparable to every other 5th Gen. And if stealth is not what it’s cracked up to be in WT then it gets 14x2
External 9X-blk2+ maintains F-35s stealth signature.
Come to this topic to read what is happening with EX/IA, and everyone’s waffling about F-35, lol
dev server closed?
More like people have no idea what to estimate lmao
Should be closed by this time, yes.
