Of course we are all human and we all have our own political views, but the discussion here is from a purely technical perspective, rather than a political one.
It’s hard to imagine that the original AWG-9s are still functional with the original components.
Radars, especially radars of that era have relatively short MTBF.
So obviously many faulty components had to be replaced over the years.
And many of the original components are simply no longer available as they are long obsolete.
So obviously they would be replaced with modern electronics.
Those changes, and a shift towards modern digital electronics (software-based and otherwise), would likely result in increased performance in some areas.
And the technology for making both ground based and airborne radars as well as radar seekers seem to exist in Iran.
(Again, regardless of the political views that one might have … You can hate North Korea, but that won’t make their nuclear weapons and ICBMs disappear)
According to TM 9-1410-530-14 the I-Hawk missile which is what the Sedjil essentially is has the following dimensions and weight:
Length: 503.3 cm / 198 in (In the game 425 cm)
Diameter: 35.6 cm / 14 in (In the game 37.0 cm)
Weight: 637.8 kg / 1406 lbs (In the game 625 kg)
Wing span (not sure if relevant in the game, but there is a “wingAreaMult”: 1.4 in the missile’s config file in the game): 120.4 cm / 47.4 in
Battery life: Greater than 110 seconds at full-load (In the game 105 s)
Direct measurement on the Fakour-90 images using the known 356mm diameter gives a length of around 4 meters (According to the official export brochure of AD-40A which is the export variant of the Fakour-90 without the inner booster grain/pour of the propellant, the length should be around 3960mm which is the same length as AIM-54):
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It is highly likely it should pull more, an aerodynamic stability limit of around 25G. This is the same as AIM-54.
Gaijin has chosen to copy the maximum overload from the Sedjil which the Fakour-90 is largely based on.
No.
Unlikely.
No, I have explained in quite good detail that the missile (Sedjil) will choose from dual or single plane as needed - and it can pull 20 in both. It maneuvers in dual plane from launch regardless, and this is seen on video from both ground and air launch. Any pitch-up maneuver is performed between the axis of the wings intersecting.
The AIM-54 is actually designed for higher loads than the HAWK or I-HAWK ever was, and it was always intended to pull around 25G according to documents @David_Bowie forwarded to the devs, however they have not actioned on these and have chosen to ignore them largely for balance reasons.
I mean, Sidewinder is also usually mounted in X configuration.
But this is sort of a coincidental dual plane maneuvering.
I didn’t see any indication in that document that the missile can actually maintain X configuration relative to the targets’ plane of motion. If anything the document says that the missile does not maintain the X configuration relative to the target, hence why “when pitch and yaw is limited the loads are not equally distributed on both sets of wings”.
Yes, but we don’t have documents for Fakour so …
If they later buff the AIM-54, an argument could be made for Fakour (though not a definitive one), but since AIM-54 is currently less maneuverable than Sedjeel, there is no argument for giving Fakour higher load factor than Sedjeel. (It does currently get more fin AoA though)
Sidewinder is roll stabilized in a certain configuration and tailored to maneuver with roll locked in place from launch - making whichever plane it is in coincidental. This limits turn radius and performance but keeps the missile stable. It avoids this rolling conundrum seen on the I-HAWK.
It quite literally states that the autopilot chooses which axis to use, this gives us all necessary information to show that it is capable - and regularly does maneuver in “X” plane. It is seen in videos, and it is explained in the documentation.
Bias on who’s part? If you think the devs are being biased, I would agree.
Yes as I said, I dont think that the sedjil and the Fakour can have the same characteristics. It makes no logical sense. I would understand if they gave the sedjil the same performance as an i-HAWK, but the Fakour and the phoenix should be more or less on par with eachoter when it comes to maneuverability. And the logical thing would be that they are more maneuverable than a HAWK…
What the hell is going on with the sedjeel??? They are decent…when they work but are completely unreliable. Every other game or so they’ll just dive straight down to the ground or even pitch up to god knows where. They are supposed to have the same seeker as the aim-7f/m which are known to have a similar issue but those are still are pretty reliable overall.
With the sedjeel every time you launch one it’s a coin flip whether or not it will f*** you over (like in the second clip). Too bad because like I said when they work they feel great but you’re probably still better off using the R-27R still, at least they are predictable.
What does the weight of the missile have to do with them pitching straight down to the ground right after launch?? Or up for that matter. Also the Fakours are even heavier than the sedjeel and they don’t have any issue…
These are just 2 clips among dozens. There’s an entire post dedicated to this issue.
Here’s another clip when launching at a 50km target around the same altitude. It immediately dives towards the ground. There’s no correlation between this behavior and the distance they are launched. It happens regardless.
