You could use a replay with the sensor view enabled showing the width. We have forwarded a report on this basis before;
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/QhYDPYj3LIRl
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Thanks
Can you please open the report and change it to info requested? I will edit it and remove the datamine stuff and add the replay stuff
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Done.
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Forwarded cheers.
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New bug report
AIM-54A should continue receiving datalink updates after going active:
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/ZSTO5XEmnNov
Most likely applies to basically all ARH missiles … Same was reported for AAM-4 using a patent.
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After quite a bit of digging, seems like that last picture might be for the Basic Hawk.
The I-Hawk also used a monopulse seeker with a planar array antenna and solid state electronics that looked not much different from the Iranian Hawk (Shalamcheh) seeker:
ADA017242 Missile Manufacturing Technology Conference Held at Hilton Head Island, South Carolina on 22-26 September 1975. Panel Presentations: Guidance.
https://apps.dtic.mil/sti/tr/pdf/ADA017242.pdf
ADA017241 Missile Manufacturing Technology Conference Held at Hilton Head Island, South Carolina on 22-26 September 1975. Panel Presentations: Control.
https://ntrl.ntis.gov/NTRL/dashboard/searchResults/titleDetail/ADA017241.xhtml
Also seems like it should have inertial guidance similar to R-24R:
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Bug report:
Sedjeel missing inertial guidance (IOG):
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/tv6RM1a9P8Ld
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“i hope the sedjeel get its IOG as with better f14 Rader you can use it and be more useful then r24r with mig23 Rader”
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Worth adding that in the “Phoenix Missile Test Six on Six” video used by @Wagner_Leung in his AWG-9 bug report, the pilot also says “Fox 1” after firing the first Phoenix. (By which he basically means “The 1st Fox or missile”)
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Oh well, in that case that’s obviously it. He’s saying the first missile, not “launching SARH missile”. Great work.
https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/73oeIir6thCp
Using this non-debatable evidence that the IRIAF can carry 6 Phoenix/Fakour
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my question is where did they get the stats for the missile? like i can’t find anywhere, all i can find is news outlets saying they made a “better” aim54 so idk…
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Last I checked the seeker in the game was copied from AIM-54A
The motor is an I-Hawk motor that we have some data for
The guidance system is also assumed to be based on the I-Hawk
Moving forward, most missiles are gonna be based on guesswork anyways …
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Any chance this cat could receive some upgrades in the future?
I’ve taken the IRIAF for a spin since the update and while it’s playable since the new wave of premium players, it’s still really rough to play at 13.0.
First why the 4x fakour loadout limitation instead of 6 ? Seems completely arbitrary.
I think I remember someone making a bug report about it, I suppose it went nowhere?
And the possible addition R-73 ? Back when the IRIAF was 12.3 it was understandable especially when the fakour were so oppresive but at 13.0 they are easily fooled and irccm missiles are everywhere.
I know the tech tree F-14s aren’t in any better shape right now but at least we’ll probably get the F-14D at some point.
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It is completely arbitrary. We have video evidence that it can use all 6 hardpoints. I was the one who bugreported it. As usual, despite the poor state of the IRIAF and the evidence being clear as day, it has been ignore do by Gaijn. It’s pretty obvious they hate the Tomcat, but Thats already well known by now.
As for the R-73, there’s more evidence of the R-73 being compatible than the R-27R1.
But the main problems of the IRIAF are core problems with the F-14 platform.
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They probably don’t want to because it will be OP… you know , OP like Eurofighters and Rafales fly straight to it without giving a crap about any warning.
At this point i’m starting to think that not even GJ is at fault, when they know the whole complaining afterwards. People will go mad.
In fact every report/article i’ve read states that it can fire R73 , thought it doesn’t cooperate with its IRST. They also state that it didn’t have any synergy with R27 and they couldn’t solve it.
So if they want it at 13.0 , they can just take away R27s and give it R73 (and Fatter?) .
It won’t be good, especially with the low CM count , even if they fix the engines…and it’s always the radar that isn’t that good at this point.
The problem with this is… Still if they won’t implement dual-plane 25G AIM-54C+ and they give a 17G caricature instead , the plane will be crap. Because it will have higher MM as well.
Similarly , at 13.0 14B would be workable with AIM-7P(remium) -which they have in game in the premium 18s - and 9Ms and i’d say fix BOLs but that affects all planes with them.The radar is enough of a flaw for a 13.0 .
But as i said above, people don’t want good 14s…
Personally i had my best games maybe , in MF1 the time that IRIAF was 12,7. If anything it was a very realistic scenario with the Fakour being realistically closer to what AIM-54A would be RL.
And i didn’t have any problems with an ass of RWR the MF1 has…
Now if i messed up , i messed up… if the RNG gods were heavily against me , ok… it happens against and with other planes too. Mostly it was the fact that it needed you to fly in a specific way to counter it , which is still more realistic than not , but dictated the gameplay -in a game- and that is something people don’t want and they are right to an extend if it happens ALL THE TIME like it used to back there.
But , in general… i see people not want anything to be better than what they play, because their ego is hurt that much. You shouldn’t have to try…you should just go in and pull aces just because, not giving a damn about warnings etc. because ^it’s their time^ …
So , no… i don’t believe GJ will fix 14s.
If they wanted they would have started with the engines , which the implementation breaks thermodynamics without even taking on account ΔΤ…which they should have even without knowing the exact value , take a minimum value… but ΔΤ is always there…
I wouldn’t expect much…
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tech tree f18 lates also have it
The 14.0s? Those have AMRAAMs anyway…They don’t really play with them except as placeholder till AMRAAM. The 18 Early uses it at 12,7.
F-14B could actually play with them.
Also i don’t think the Swiss one even used 7P. Possibly 7MH, which is a different missile with different flight profile etc.
So a plane that used them, doesn’t have them in game, but one that didn’t has them?
To add more…
If F/A-18C Early has AIM-7P, it means it’s after 1990 but before 1992 because it supposed to be pre-AMRAAM… but still it should have AIM-9M already.
And all F-18s used AIM-9M from the get go… even 18A.
What kind of selective bullcrap is this?
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