The AIM-54 Phoenix missile - Technology, History and Performance

Though at the same time, the multipath height should also be reduced:

https://www.navair.navy.mil/foia/sites/g/files/jejdrs566/files/document/[filename]/FINAL%20VERSION%20Thesis_An%20Outisider's%20View%20of%20the%20Phoenix%202021-010204_0.pdf

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Source?

try to replicate that shot, see how the missile never reaches the target lol

Watch Gaijin immediately take action to implement this nerf to AIM-54, while the reports on G-limits, loft profile, and reduced smoke engine are ignored

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Also @sudo_su1 it has been pointed out that the C is using a directional warhead that increases its lethality even further. To my knowledge missiles in game act the same as any HE shell or explosive and do not have warheads filled with shrapnel. All you are going to do with this is make the missile even more useless… Great job…

Are you going to make the same report for the Fakour as well or nah ?

As I said, I fully expected the hate. But it must be done …

Already did:

They do not model warheads correctly… The rest of the weight of the warhead is just dead weight in this game

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I understand, but that affects all missiles and it’s another bug report / feature request.

Multipath is less over water than hard ground in real life, Gaijin accepts that this is a game limitation as the different surfaces do not have difference in multipath effect in-game. Water being rough or smooth has an effect as well, and they do not feel the need to model this. As such the multipath effect over water is the same as it is over ground in-game.

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Will be interesting, although sudo has made, I Believe 4 nearly identical reports about this since a few months ago and none have taken effect.

We will see I guess.

Sorry, PL-15, via pixel count of known photo and known reference.

Although it is an estimate, but we know for sure it has less volume than Aim-54.

This is the first one regarding AIM-54A
The other one was regarding AIM-54C, which was passed 15 days ago.
(They use different warheads)

How did you determine the motors overall % of the body from these photos? There seems to be no indication.

AIm-54C wrong explosive mass // Gaijin.net // Issues

I was speaking about this one along with the one you mentioned, I believe there was an older one as well, but it does not populate in the quick access anymore.

They didn’t forward that one though, because the employee closed it without even reading it. That’s why I made it again later (and was forwarded 15 days ago).

The other one was about Sedjeel & Fakour’s explosive mass (not type), but my report was actually incorrect in that case. I was reading the wrong number/item from the document …

Is there a source for that?

From what I could find AIM-54A also uses both MK 60 and MK 47 motors, and I could not find an indication of any difference between the two motors.

Either make a report for every single missile in the game or drop this… honestly you are chasing rabbits man…

You are asking for accurate explosive quantities without accurate warhead modeling… Its like asking for a car with no engine

Well, they already model the fragmentation pattern:

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 "damage": {
      "shatter": {
        "useRealShatters": true,
        "countPortion": 0.15,
        "segment": [
          {
            "radiusScale": 1.0,
            "penetrationScale": 1.5,
            "damageScale": 1.5,
            "angles": [
              0.0,
              9.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.1
          },
          {
            "angles": [
              10.0,
              29.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.0
          },
          {
            "radiusScale": 1.0,
            "penetrationScale": 1.0,
            "damageScale": 1.0,
            "angles": [
              30.0,
              124.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.35
          },
          {
            "radiusScale": 1.0,
            "penetrationScale": 1.5,
            "damageScale": 1.5,
            "angles": [
              45.0,
              70.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.05
          },
          {
            "angles": [
              125.0,
              169.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.0
          },
          {
            "radiusScale": 1.0,
            "penetrationScale": 1.0,
            "damageScale": 1.0,
            "angles": [
              170.0,
              189.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.1
          },
          {
            "angles": [
              190.0,
              234.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.0
          },
          {
            "radiusScale": 1.0,
            "penetrationScale": 1.0,
            "damageScale": 1.0,
            "angles": [
              235.0,
              329.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.35
          },
          {
            "radiusScale": 1.0,
            "penetrationScale": 1.5,
            "damageScale": 1.5,
            "angles": [
              290.0,
              315.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.05
          },
          {
            "angles": [
              330.0,
              349.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.0
          },
          {
            "radiusScale": 1.0,
            "penetrationScale": 1.5,
            "damageScale": 1.5,
            "angles": [
              350.0,
              359.0
            ],
            "countPortion": 0.1
          }
        ]
      },
      "shatterDamage": {
        "breachConeAngle": 45.0
      },
      "explosive": {
        "radius": 0.15,
        "offset": 0.9
      }
    },

I don’t know if this corresponds to a continuous rod warhead or not, but perhaps that’s something for you to figure out!

“RealShatter” Aka what made every single 20/30mm HE round useless for quite a while before being removed, is used for missile fragmentation pattern… lmao…

And how far do these fragments really go? Go figure… You are the one that is asking for accurate HE filler amount, you figure out if this corresponds to a continious rod warhead or not and whatever else it affects.

Still waiting for buf reports for the HE fillers on the rest of the missiles in game…

“it must be done”

Well, I’m not aware of any, but if there is a missile that is missing its correct filler mass, it should also be corrected. So yes, “it must be done”