F-14A/B at 11.7/12.0 is too OP

F-14D can be the one added for 12.7.
The other two should keep their loadouts as unique aircraft.

You support copy-paste right? That’s why you’re suggesting F-14B and D have identical loadouts…

lol You refuted your own legitimacy with that claim.

That’s what the F-14D should have.

Sure, when the following aircraft are also 12.0: Mirage 2000 C, F-4EJ Kai, Mig-21 Bison.
Of course F-4J, F-1C, Kurnass 2000, and Tornado ADV have to go to 11.7 for balance.
And of course every aircraft 12.0 and higher has to go up by 0.3.
Which leads to Mig-21Bis going up by 0.3 and a number of other aircraft.
Which leads F-8E and other aircraft to go up by 0.3.
Which leads to F-104C to go up by 0.3.
Which means 9.3 air is finally decompressed.

Better SARH missiles don’t exist, and it physically cannot be 13.0 no matter what you give it.
F-14B is Mig-29 equivalent. Every 13.0 in the game is vastly superior, and most 12.7s, including F-4F ICE, is superior.

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I see this loadout quite often recently, but probably just due to the players wanting to check out the MP changes, and AIM-54 works quite well against the brainless premiums on sale right now.

It is unskilled premium pilots who forgot they have an RWR.

Clearly youre doing it wrong.

No, learning to notch and chaff is the most consistent. IOG is useless once you fool the seeker with chaff. Outpulling depends greatly on your airframe.

Bad launch. Front-side aspect gives the missile a colder aircraft to see.

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The BRs should be higher, so yes.

It still has TWS, and with fixing and buffs it should absolutely be 13.0.

Is it because it’s good in a down tier or because it’s good at it’s br? In a down tier it’s a menace but so is every other aircraft at 12.0. In an uptier it sucks

Id say its balanced. Only performs well in downtiers due to the premium bomber decimators you can bring 6 of.

Yeah, move them all up, what’s wrong with BR decompression?

Max BR shouldn’t be 13.0(like I said in my post) so move them all up and decompress the BRs while you’re at it.

It’s such a fake problem like “uhhhh we can’t move this vehicle here because it would be useless vs this other vehicle” then you have “but this vehicle would be too strong at this BR because it’s wayyyy better then these vehicles!”

Move the max BR up, shuffle the vehicles around, annnnnnnndddd done.

Gaijin can add AIM-54C+ which is last variant of Phoenixes…
It is primarily a model with improved ECCM performance, but the major difference is that the missile itself had a simultaneous cooling mechanism.

The F-14A and F-14B in the real life require the use of external bottled coolant attached to the pylons on the front of the fuselage(station 3/station 6) for using AIM-54s.

That’s means F-14A/F-14B should not be possible to carry x2 AIM-54s in the rear of the fuselage and wings without using x2 front pylons but, F-14D doesnt need.

F-15A does not have access to fox 3 missiles. You really needed to ask this?

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The F-14s don’t have access to AIM-120s either, so they’re the same.
Phoenix is the AIM-7D of ARHs.

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I mean, a lot of vehicles don’t have access to the same features that see each other.

Like, you compared the F-4F ICE earlier. Yeah, it had a really good radar, and 4 ARHs…but that’s it.

It’s lacking in pretty much every department and thanks to its 12.7 BR it sees vehicles that far surpass it every single match(if you have a 11.7 match in the F-4F ICE then I imagine he’ll froze over) so it has to make due with its “bonuses”

That’s kinda why I feel like it’s a bit pointless to argue these points as long as we have these insane and or stupid/pointless/arbitrary BR caps that just serve as a way to increase frustration in the grind and make people GE the next module and or vehicle in order to cut out the sad(and also to feed the whales who paid ti have the best of the best before anyone else)

Phoenix missiles and aim-120 are both ARH missiles. An AIM-7 is a SARH missile, which would be a fox 1. You clearly dont have a clue what the fox system means.

Mig-29SMT players are doing fine being held back by its F-4F ICE like performance at a higher BR.
The only thing SMT really does better is climb.

@Bulletspam
One day you’ll figure out the difference between SARH and ARH, I have faith in you.
You’ll also figure out the difference between AIM-7D and F, as well as AIM-54 and AIM-120.

Easy to dodge implies it requires an evasive maneuver that is easy to do. If you fly straight into the missile or it’s interception course like a braindead wallet warrior ofcourse you will die every time BUT this doesn’t mean missile is OP. If I try to outmaneuver an Aim-9J without any countermeasure and die to it should I call it OP?

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Well it is if someone can get 6 kills 1 minute into a match. I mean I am forced to wiggle on the floor and have remained doing so for almost a week now since J7E doesn’t even have a radar. Planes like such are so hard to play with, when you have to try and dogfight people without full aspect and your missile will get flared easily. I just hope they could decompress BR, like how is it fair I have Mirage F1 at 11.3 with better mobility, SARH and IRCCM missiles when I have none, that is not a 0.3 BR difference.

I find it really funny, that you stated that the phoenix is like the aim-7d of ARH missiles then you follow it up with another ignorant statement like this. I guess I’ll be sending hopes and prayers that one day you will realize the phoenix is a much, much longer-range ARH missile than an aim-120, then maybe you see how laughable it is to say a phoenix is like an aim7d. Maybe you can brush up on your missile knowledge before making more embarrassing comments in the future.

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AIM54 is not too OP, it is the BR decompression that is needed, we should not have no full aspect missile, no radar and no BVR capability plane in same BR bracket. We just need the top BR to go up to 13.7 and then there is room for discussion. The same with GRB where ZTZ99A and Leo2 A7V are clearly not equal but are same BR.

@Bulletspam
lol R40 is a longer range missile to the AIM-54, yet is the worst ARH ever produced for anything other than its designated task: Strategic bombers.

AIM-54 is a 17G missile.
AIM-120 is superior to AIM-54 by far, as range doesn’t matter when it can’t hit fighters.

One day you might have a fraction of the WT community’s knowledge on missiles, though I doubt it with your attitude.

Funny, I saw phoenix missiles kill fighters just today when I was playing. Maybe one day you will have enough experience to back up that know-it-all attitude.

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@Bulletspam
Well, you can at any point stop having a know-it-all attitude and be humble like the rest of us.
Congrats on seeing fighters go in a straight line ignoring their RWR.

You’re the one comparing a phoenix to an aim7d. I guess this is your way of saving face?

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