F-14A/B at 11.7/12.0 is too OP

It doesn’t work. Since multipath was changed you can’t fly low anough to avoid radar missiles. Follow terrain just works when its a high up mountain totally blocking LOS. Trees already seem to be higher than mp. This change made F-14 super op. Before you just had to fly very low.

Now the only viable tactic is to turn cold (and lose the base). Tornado RIP, pointless plane. By turning around to avoid the F-14 missile spam you basically abandon the match, except you mange to stay alive until bases respawn.

Its also funny to watch replays of F-14 pilots. Alot just take off, climb…spam Phoenixes, turn around and land. Wait for killmessage and leave the match. This is the pinnacle of stat wh**ring gameplay. This plane needs either a nerf or a massive BR bump. This lol semi AFK gameplay and getting kills with it is nonsense.

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Yeah you can, I can do it almost every match. Really you just need to be able to guesstimate 50 meters to you don’t accidentally slip out of the zone 🤷‍♂️

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Either hide behind one of these bad boys or do some notching/ jinking. It is a 17G missile after all. I’ve defeated quite a few by doing high G barrel rolls at just the right time.

Definitely not a lot, I’ve only ever seen that a few times. A few weirdos shouldn’t move a plane though.

Also the new Iranmobile players have absolutely no idea how to flare missiles with 2 suns on the back of their plane. That’s light work for the AIM-9L.

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Tomcat even faces R-73, MM2, 9M, so, theres no trouble with killing it using same/slightly higher BR plane

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Exactly, there is absolutely no reason it should go to 13.X because some people can’t dodge 17G missiles

13.X must be for only one tomcat - F-14D, with AMRAAMs

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15.0 stealth tomcat when?

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/s for the idiots who need it

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Sure… Assuming they correct the AIM-54 to its actual performance and not the dramatic underperformance it currently has.

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Not to mention that the Tornado gets a top tier RWR while F-14A barely has an RWR, and only 60 countermeasures.

@Thodin

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If they fix the Sedjil & Fakour there is a chance that they might finally consider fixing the AIM-54 as well, even if just for the sake of balance.

https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/OJCxQHrSbp3F

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also it’s wrong,… in the movie, and from authorisation of USN, they had rights to shoot 1 AIM-9 and 1 AIM-7F, and they re-used ithose by turning them 180°

AIM-7 picture from movie:


The radar is not the eye of Sauron. You need to point the antena at the right part of the sky. There are youtube tutorials that explain advanced radar controls for war thunder.

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Its also facing Magic’2s that start from even lower. And because of its gigantic heat signature, if they fire them at you from a reasonable range its almost a guaranteed kill.

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the aim54c is in accurate at the current moment for balance reasons add its irl performance and moveing it up would be3 fine and the f14a just needs flare pods that the f14B has it could go up to as those engines are hot also the addition of aim7P missiles would be great and aim9m on the f14b and aim9L on f14A would be great

irl it did carry the countermesuare pods like the f14b does

i dont know i’ve never complained about the r 27er all i see are all of you bitching about the U.S for years, AIM 9E OP, AIM 9D Broken AIM 9Ls on the A-10? O .P ! you all are complaining over a missile that can hit you only IF YOU FLY LOW AND IN A STRAIGHT LINE AND MAKE NO MOVEMENTS.

Now all i see are posts about the AIM 120 being broken.

Then if you for a second think I.G.A.F about what you people have done for over 10 years ANYTIME the U.S gets something you all cry and whine nerf. TOW-2B? Never saw german and russian mains complain about a weapon that fast since HESH / HEAT-FS was added. I know you all hate America. Americans and everything we make, which is why gaijin hard nerfs U.S Tanks, Helicopters, Planes and boats in this game.

" we dont believe the U.S ever incorporated D.U into their tanks hulls " lmfao

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then wait and see the whiny people when they find out the aim 54 could be used to shoot Cruise missiles/ Satellites/ ICBMs out of space lol. FINAL VERSION Thesis_An Outisider’s View of the Phoenix 2021-010204_0.pdf (navy.mil)

Multipathing was not realistic, and if you think it was o.k to dodge ever single missile fired at you because the radar would stop working at ground level… i dont know what to tell you.

"balans " lol meanwhile we have direct quotes from gaijin on staff saying "they don’t nerf/ alter weapons from other countries to balance them "

When the F-14A sits proudly at 12.3, it is the JH-7 or Kurnass 2000 next to it. Did those who defend the F-14 ever look at those fighters?
They just gained Python 3, BR went up 0.3 from PD Phantom.The F-14B has a BR of 0.3 higher than the F-14A due to its airframe performance.
By simple logic, it is strange that the F-14A is spared a two-step BR upgrade, even though it has more armament variants and improved payload and airframe performance compared to the 12.0 most powerful Phantom.
This is only in comparison to the 12.0 strongest PD phantom.But No other country has such a 12.0 phantom (laughs).
All F-14 series should increase BR by 0.3. More pride please.

No evidence, provide some plz would love to have some classified shit, same with spall liners.

JH7 literally the same capability as F5ECU.