F-14A/B at 11.7/12.0 is too OP

I mean can you read?

Cope harder you don’t have anymore arguments

WOWOWOWOWOW ITS AN IMAGE OF MY PROFILE IM SO SCARED WOWOWOWOW

I dont need to engage with trolls anymore lol. Keep coping

Sorry you don’t get the fact a 17G missile isn’t hard to dodge. Ya know normal people who have logical brains can see that.

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Actually its more like 11Gs. I don’t think the Phoenix has enough AoA to even reach 17Gs.

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Exactly, he doesn’t seem like he’s very big on the whole truth thing so I wasn’t going to drop another bomb on his cope house ;)

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Its 4th gen, not 3.5

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Repeating “4th generation” which is a meaningless and subjective term like a parrot makes you sound like that smoothbrain guy in your picture.

You on the other hand forgot that the F-14 is one of the only “4th gen” without a head mounted display or an all-aspect PD radar, on top of course of lacking IRCCM weapons. All of which are common/standard in those 4th gen jets of yours.

The only tomcat variant which can truly be considered 4th gen on the level of the F-16/F-15 would be the F-14D.

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Theres some claims that tornado also 4th gen…

Those planes are basically 4.5th gen, you’re talking about Block-52 F-16 and F-15C MISPII which are way better than their initial versions and even then it wouldnt matter.

4th gen started with F-14, it was the first true next gen Air Superiority Fighter that came into service, whether you like it or not.

Tbf it’s ~25Gs dual plane ¯_(ツ)_/¯

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Depending on the version some of them considered to be 4th gen.

Oh gaijin please I want these idiots to suffer even more than they do. It would also mean the Magic 2 gets 50Gs soo

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It would be stupid hard for them to model though that’s why they don’t have it

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Arguing over what classifies as a X or Y generation, a term that doesn’t hold any value in the real world except for marketing is meaningless. I explained why the F-14 currently lacks most of the features that are standards in all 1970/1980s+ jets, whether you like it or not. Those are characteristics you can objectively compare.

So you just admitted that the concept is vague and that the same airframe can jump between generations, thx.

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*supposed to be 25G dual plane; limited to something like ~11.5 to 13G in game due to awful fin AoA and worse speed. Fakour 90 can actually hit 15G and flies fast enough to be dangerous below 25km and beyond 40km.

All the F-14 haters are going to explode when they get their hands on one and actually realize it’s not particularly spectacular. Tomcat isn’t a great jet, it’s just annoying to fight the meme missile it has. Even then, if you have a decent amount of chaff (at least 15 to 20 drops), you can just climb and beat them at the SARH game after the spam is over.

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Actually it also struggles to hit its max Gs. Im pretty sure the F-90 has less AoA then the Phoenix and the Sedjil has MUCH MUCH worse AoA like its literally a flying brick.

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I clearly stated that F-14 was the first “true” 4th gen Air Superiority Fighter, meanwhile some very late Tornado models considered 4th gen due to their capabilities.

Learn the difference, then you can thank me.

According to you only, Aviation world doesnt share the same opinion with you.

It doesnt matter if F-14A was lacking those features. Tomcat was the first 4th gen that was accepted into the service, it had superior radar,BVR capabilites and Flight performance against anything that was on the market when it was introduced.

Of course 1980’s plane was going to be Better than Tomcat A, first model even flew on Vietnam war, but just because Y is better than X doesnt mean X is not in the same leauge, whether you like it or not.

Idk, my awesome Fakours hardly do anything because according to my radar there is nothing in the air to lock at at 93km and beyond neither closer, and the only thing I can lock are enemy missiles. Then I blow up and die. Those Fakours really do not want to lock and the radar cannot pick anyone up.

i never had a problem with it, other than it seemed to hit me even when i was under 100 meters/

Wounder how I play my Tornados now. F-14’s are everywhere and spam the whole Air RB battlefield with long range missiles. Sometimes you take off and 30 secs later an F-14 radar is already locking you. It needs to be pushed above 13 BR.

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Same way as before: fly low, follow the terrain (as Tornados would in real life), use hills and crevices as cover, go cold, use the metric ton of chaff that the game gives you. It’s really not that hard.

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The F3 and ADF tornados can lock the F-14s at that distance too. Just because you are locked doesn’t mean they have already fired a missile at you.