Less autopilot delay, which gives good advantage in dogfights
And still be usefull
The ER completely outclasses the Phoenix what are you on about. Even if the Phoenix has range it’ll take like 1000years to get there.
Only with phoenix, but you just need to not fly into the missile.
27ER best FOX-1 in game, which can beat FOX-3 carriers sometime.
Both frequent.
The mig-21bis went from seeing a maximum of 4 F-14B and an unlimited amount of F-14A to only seeing F-14A in a full uptier (so max 4). That’s a major matchmaking improvement for the mig21 so why are you still complaining?
Yes, aircrafts from +1.0 are supposed to kick your teeth, that’s kinda the point. I mean how the heck do you think F-14B vs F-15C with 8 amraam plays out?
Using a full uptier scenario as an argument for the “overpowered” nature of a vehicle is ridiculous.
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Phoenix have advantage, but not in wt.
It must use waaay higher loft, which will give a lot of speed during attack from top.
This one was a ping / signal delay issue. By the time server processed the missile / aircraft locations, in relation to each other, the client already sent new aircraft position.
It didn’t.
It was a clear case of “multipathing”.
The way you describe it (“some imaginary multipath target”) is how it works IRL, but that is not the case in game.
Fun fact you make the R-27ER semi stealth with IOG.
R-27ER vs Phoenix lol. This is an actual match of how you can use the ER.
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Which is compensated by the ability to launch sooner.
0 realism in that btw
You can also launch the ER as far as 70km. In the video I sent the launch was like 65km.
How can you call this R-27ER vs AIM-54, when there was no duel at all?
In the video R-27ER was launched far earlier then any return fire was even directed towards the aircraft.
It was a nice case of R-27ER use, but not a clear example of comparison between R-27ER and AIM-54.
The Phoenix was launched at 50km and you can see that by the time the Phoenix was anywhere near me it was losing a lot of speed even though I was loitering at high altitude for so long. The ER on the other hand launched at 65km still had an impact velocity of M2.5 even though the target was much lower and wasn’t heading straight towards me.
You can also see that the ER travelled 40km+ (probably around 50km) while the Phoenix only travelled 30km and was already about to get as slow as the ER’s impact velocity lol.
The point of the video is to show that even if the Phoenix out ranges the ER, the ER is significantly faster at any relevant range.
This isn’t the case actually.
R-27ER will switch to inertial guidance in case that it loses radar lock from it’s aircraft.
If the radar lock is reaquired, then missile will then resume it’s radar guidance.
That is what happened in the video. Player launched the missile upwards, towards an previously locked target, and then intentionally broke the lock.
After some time (when he judged enough time passed), he locked a new target, and the missile started receiving new signal, and started descending towards it.
The phoenix indeed becomes a brick and loses speed extremely fast once the rocket motor is out. While it has a greater theoretical range, in practice, with these small maps we play on, it outranges the phoenix with a lower time to target. That’s why every decent F-14 pilots knows to dip as soon as they get a missile launch warning from a R-27ER carrier. That thing is on you almost instantly.
In warthunder we basically never get the chance to launch the phoenix at the altitude they were intented for.
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In short, no the F-14A isn’t better than the MiG-29G/SMT in BVR.
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Only in WT.
You cant force MIG-29 radar to give datalink corrections, and even if you do - the data will not be correct, because path made relatively to plane.
And same with CW - you cant force radar.
How can you say that, when F-14s are usually the highest flying aircraft in a match, thanks to it’s powerful engines?
20kft and 1.4 mach isnt really optimal for phoenix
That might be so, but it’s still a close matchup.
Unlike F-14 vs MiG-21, which you were replying to.
Pretty much, if not all, aircraft above the F-14A are vastly superior in BVR.
Against bombers? F-14A is better.
Phoenix was many things, and until IFF was on everything, it wasn’t used against fighters IRL.
Oh… F-14B is the fastest climbing of the F-14s, and that’s slower than most at and above it in BR.
F-14A is about as good at climbing as Tornado ADV.
You know… I should re-do all my time to altitude tests since new jets were added.
Spoiler: Yak-141 will still be the fastest.