How much targets did u see at 9.3/10.0 with chaffs as a countermesure, even if they had them it would be a casuality they would know u were launching a SARH missile at them cu almost all planes don’t have RWR or they have a very bad one.
I wouldn’t complain since MiG-21 is a very good plane with the high speed and decent maneuverability + R3S/R3R
Russia claims atleast top 5 of top 10 best airframes at or around 10.
Mig-17, Mig-19, Mig-21, Yak-30, I mean really the only bad planes as far as flight performance goes are the Yak-38 and Yak-28.
MiG-19 has bad airframe just like F-100D
Yak-38/28 are attackers/bombers so it’s obvious they suck for dogfights.
MiG-19PT, in general, has bad airframe. The only good thing of It are the cannons, the missiles and the engines.
It is debatable, and I disagree. saw much of soviet users using it well.
And both of you, @Pangolin_Fan and @Flanker_Thunder, seem to be going off topic
If both of your discussion goes wild to [which nation has worse airframe, USA or USSR]
It will be nothing but off-topic.
Stay on F-106A.
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MiG-17 is ok but it lacks afterburner that it’s german counterpart has + hard to aim the cannons.
I was talking about F-106A and how it should go 10.0 due to the dogfight-based caracteristics, excluding a bit the missiles.
Whatever, if someone goes off-topic, i don’t care cuz it’s chatting at least.
So u “saw OTHER players that WEREN’T you in specific, using it well”
That is just like me talking trash about a plane i don’t own
U’re saying a plane has good airframe just cuz all Ur enemy MiG-19PTs used it well.
Or let me guess, it’s the german version with better avionics
It should go up when Gaijin decompresses 9.3.
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I really want to decide by my own experince, but I haven’t unlocked and flown MiG-19 yet.
Because I am concerned and focused about getting more strike jets than fighter jets in both soviet/german tech tree.
I mean… MiG-27 and Tornado IDS are cool. right?
All I saw was some good soviet/Eastern German users used good energy retention for better gunfighting.
So I am talking that F-106A shouldn’t go 10.0 because there are a lot much better supersonic jets in 9.3-10.0.
F-106A can’t dogfight well, just as the Gloster Javelin does.
A delta wing gives the ability to have a sharp turn, but insufficient engine thrust just doesn’t keep you up.
I would rather use Milan or J35A(if I bought it before :/ missed opportunity.) than F-106A.
Yes, it punches subsonic jets along with other 9.3BR jets (F-100D, MiG-19s, F-104A/C)
And that is why it can’t go 10.0 unless decompressing 9.3 happens.
You keep talking about the missiles like they are very good. However, its clear you only look at the stat card for your info.
The missiles are heavy, slow, and have no proxy fuse.
This means:
Take longer to get to speed
Lose speed quicker
Need direct hits
If you fire them outside of like 2km, they wont hit.
If you fire them inside of 2km, the enemy can kill its speed by turning and it will miss.
The only way you can get kills with them is if you fire at a low energy target, within 2km, that is unaware.
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You have got to be kidding . . .
hehe
Mirage III also has a decent engine that can regain energy (even if fairly slowly for the BR) for whatever reason the F-106 engine has absolutely zero power unless you’ve been flying straight and level for quite a long time. It’s very strange, and reminds me of the hilariously botched Super Mystere release flight model.
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The F-106A Delta Dart, at the moment, has quite possibly the worst and least effective air-to-air missiles placed on an aircraft in the entire game.
(except perhaps the Ruhrstahl X-4 on the Fw 190A-5 or Matra R511 on the Vautour IIN),
even when combined with the use of its Helmet Mounted Sight…
The AIM-4F/G can literally be dodged quite easily without countermeasures by pulling or maneuvering even slightly out of the way without much effort.
The Super Falcons have extremely poor extended rocket mortar thrust to actually keep up with and catch jets despite being capable of having 27Gs of tolerance.
They also need a direct hit because they lack a proximity fuze, unlike other missiles.
Almost every single subsonic jet at 9.3-10.3 BR has better missiles than it.
The F-106 is really just an F-104 that can hold its own against a 1v1 dogfight; it’s really not that special.
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Yeah, even though I used Milan for mainly base bomber for RP/SL grind(No, I didn’t bomb in IIIC/IIICJ),
Milan and Mirage IIIC/Shahak were fancy enough to use in A2A
Unlike the F-106A does.
Snecma 9K engines are impressive.
Comparing F-106A directly against Mirage IIIC feels dumb to me.
Maybe it was plausible when we all didn’t know that AIM-4F/G would be that bad
(In the catalogue, 27G missile covered by HMS sounds insane for 9.3.)
But not anymore, when the catalogue scam of AIM-4F/G has emerged.
Itself may be a fine 9.3BR supersonic jet, which is good enough to bully the Subsonic jets
but there is no reason to send it directly higher to 10.0BR when we still keeps these other supersonic jets in 9.3BR.
There is no need to send F-106A from 9.3BR to 10.0BR when we keep F-100D, MiG-21F, Lightning F.6 and that infamous F-104A/C on 9.3.
Obviously, you don’t own or have ever used the F-106 to make a post spewing such a fallacy
I have the SU-30, SU-33, SU-27, and MiG-29, so you can skip the nonsense about US mains
The F-106 has joke missiles much worse than the AIM-9B; they don’t even have a proximity fuse, it loses all its speed in tight turns, and the only usable and effective thing about it is its cannon with half the ammo of a F-104
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IF AIM-4F had proximity fuse just like R-3R or AIM-9C does…
it would be fine meme plane I think.
I was just shocked when I just unlocked it, and the enemy just evaded it in a head-on course, even without rolling.
Near miss and wasted missile.
:D