F-104S TAF Lower the BR

I’ve been wondering why the ASA can’t have 6 missiles.

I’ve asked here on the forum and apparently it can carry 4 AIM-9Ls and 2 Js.

They aren’t worth much more then wasting enemy flares but if it’s historical, why not?

ASA/ASA-M manual says it can carry just x4 AIM-9Ls iirc

It can have its BR lowered if it loses its flares.

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funny because the asa doesn’t have a pd radar

With the current BR’s the f-104s and TAF is too good to be moved down and is too bad to stay at its br. Gaijin needs to decompress air jets then deal with this issue

Oh Didn’t it?
I was confused for sonehow.

Same as F104asa, F104ASA’s rwr is totally broken…

11.0 for the F-104S TAF or any F-104 be it the Techtree S of S ASA which is even higher, is not justifiable.
The way this game works puts you in an Uptier 9 out 10 games and you are Facing Mig-29’s and F-16’s.

Now if any of you think that the F-104S TAF is good at 11.0, well i got this to say.
You are entitled to your oppinion even if you are wrong.

Just look at the F-4EJ it sits at 11.0 and is by far a way more capable jet at its BR not just in terms of Flight Performance but also in weapons.

The only reason why the F-104S went up was because of complaining A-10 and Su-25 sweatlords that got murdered by the F-104 and could do very little against them.

But hey thats what you get when you take a slow strike craft into air RB

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The only advantage of the F104 is the speed, considering the f104a is 9.3, it is not acceptable to say that because the f104 is too fast it needs a higher BR, so it is better to make the most of F104 -0.3,

By the way, in 11.3, The 104ASA SL speed is lower than mig23ML, and F104ASA’s RWR is still broken.

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It is quite funny how almost all of the complainers who complain about changing the F-104S to 10.7BR from 11.0BR ignore that F-104G(Germany) is sitting at 10.7BR with x4 AIM-9J and it is pretty decent.

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Let it sit where it sit at but give it 9L then it fair enough

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Maybe because 10.7 do not see the same ammount of 12.0 battle that 11.0 see?
Or the fact that even 11.3 planes are far faster and better armed than the 104S?
The F104 S TAF have speed as his only selling point and is constantly forced to play against planes that you can’t even be compared to
But your beloved 104G is fine so fuck italy right?

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We do have a f104 with 9Ls, but it is in 11.3, which is one of the worst jet at this BR

The beauty of compression plus the hate gaijin have for italy

I don’t know how to deal with F4S or MIG23L, now they put JA37D to 11.3, which means the 9L is not a balance reason for F104ASA

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I Dont’ know either. I play my taf hoping that a mig 29/F14/F16 don’t just decide that he want an easy kill. This is why air combat mode is also the only game mode that i play in arcade from time to time

F104ASA’s RWR is broken, which means when the RWR rings, you don’t even know where the missiles will come from, even if they are 11.3 jets, I think all of f104 should -0.3(except F104A in 9.3)

Looks like gaijin just desn’t care and isn’t interested in making the italian tech tree appealing in any shape or form.

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True dude

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This is the reason why the F-104S and most 11.0BR aircraft are suffering in current meta.
And that is mainly due to the horrible matchmaker and BR compression in Jet RB match, NOT the unjustifiably high BR of the F-104S.

BTW, I’ve heard F-104J that doesn’t have CMs will get x6 AIM-9Ps in next update. It will be very interesting to see how that will work with the current Jet RB because F-104S was 10.7BR when they didn’t have CMs.