I think what he meant is that we dont even have the missiles currently , so an IRST wouldnt be useful for anything since the missiles hasnt arrived yet
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Because at the moment, the Rafales does not have the means to engage in air-to-air combat (as they don’t have air-to-air missiles), what use is the IRST?
We don’t even know when the Rafales will achieve IOC status, let alone FOC and being combat capable. We just have to wait and see.
I want to believe Surabaya 😭
27SKM for 13.3 prem plz :v
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photos of the TNIAU jets arriving for the Independence Day demonstration next week in Jakarta
So cool, the variety is already good imagine when all the potential orders materialize, need this subtree so bad
Just realized the new Su-30 livery has been updated too. It used to have a plain-colored underside, but now it matches the top.
I guess, this isn’t accurate anymore
yeah its a full repaint from pre-2026 to current. Not only the underside but the entire upper area is repainted, easier to see on the probe beside the cockpit, the line is a bit further up than before. Additionally new yellow warning markings has been added throughout the jet, notably lacking on the older paintjob


If i had to guess they were probably repainting the jet for the anniversary in 2025, but didnt have time to fully finish it, and what we see now is the finished product
info from @Balta779517-live , there’s a clear underside view of the Su-27SKM
the one on the left is TS-3005 (Su-30MK2 original camo), the one on the right is T-2704 (New camo with the underside painted
honestly looks amazing i cant lie
looks like the prototype su-35 paintjob

T-33 trainer jet?
was a T-33, then modified to be an attacker variant
the capability is a bit worse than the Thai F-84G so its mostly gonna be at like 7.3 or something like that
What did they change about it? More bomb/rocket hardpoints?
domestic modification to make it up to par with the US-made attacker variant. For instance someone noted that the jet on the Dirgantara Mandala museum you see in the image above uses the czech-made variant of the ASP-3N gunsight (used in the east-bloc MiG-15UTI). Other changes include the addition of FFAR rocket pods & 80mm SURA-D rockets (and their domestically produced variant under the “Proyek Menang”)
Dont know about bombs but I’ve looked to no avail, so not certain it can carry them
Don’t know about bombs but I’ve looked to no avail, so not certain it can carry them
Knowing Gaijin they’ll probably give them bombs any ways since the T-33 from other countries mounted bombs. Though there’s still a possibility that Indonesia used bombs on their T-33’s.
The question is if they hypothetically did mount bombs; Is it only US made bombs or if they give their T-33’s the same treatment they give to their OV-10’s & B-26’s where they modify them to use bombs of other nations (Mainly Italian, Soviet and/or Swiss) on top of the US made bombs.
its a bit different though, since this is a domestic modification, we dont know whether they change the wiring for the pylons or stuff like that
The commenter i linked also states this:
“The T-33 could easily carry 500-pound M43 and 100-pound M30 General Purpose (GP) bombs without modification. However, until 1980, the Indonesian Air Force (TNI-AU) did not possess American-standard aerial bombs such as the GP M43, GP M30, or the low-drag Mark 82. The majority of the TNI-AU’s bombs at the time were Soviet-made FAB-500s and FAB-250s, the suspension lugs of which were incompatible with the T-33. The only Western-standard bombs previously used by the AURI’s Mitchell, Mustang, and Invader aircraft were British-made 500-pound Medium Capacity (MC) bombs—a legacy from the Dutch ML-KNIL. Although compatible with the T-33’s pylons, by the 1970s, these MC bombs were few in number and had become obsolete; their components—particularly the fuses—had deteriorated due to the tropical climate. Ultimately, there was simply no stock of aerial bombs available to arm Indonesia’s AT-33A T-Birds.”
While i agree to that notion somewhat, the British General Purpose bombs was still listed as a suspended armament even all the way to 1996 with the Hawk 53. So the most realistic option of the bombs carried would possibly be that. But again we have no images nor data to confirm it can or cannot carry bombs
not a bit worse, it’s way worse.
only have 2x .50 cal as primary armament if im not wrong. Not worth it to be added tbh











