Rafale thrust: 20800kgf.
Rafale mass with full fuel: 16000kg
1.3:1 TWR for Rafale, NOT 1.8 as you falsely claim.
Typhoon thrust: 22800kgf. [17.4 tons static.]
Typhoon mass with full fuel: 16000kg.
TWR: 1.425:1.
Typhoon’s engines were corrected from their unrealistic PW-220 performance on dev server .23, over 24 hours ago.
If you have unclassified evidence they were over-corrected then supply it.
For now Typhoon has its correct time to altitude, and is the best airframe in War Thunder.
Why?
Because the F/A 18 has a thrust to weight of 1 : 1. The EJ200 has more than 9000LB of thrust per engine, it sits around 9200. The weight of the aircraft is around 10% heavier than the rafale, for example, but it has a lot more thrust (1.2x) so how it has a lower thrust to weight beats me. The rafale F-5 is still in development, so I don’t think that source is credible. The empty weight of the eurofighter is around 10 tonnes, but sources vary to 11. The eurofighter and rafale C should not have the same thrust to weight
And now if you look in game, the rafale has a thrust to weight of 1.86 and the F-15E has a thrust to weight of around 1.9
What?
In game. Every plane has a higher thrust to weight in game
Where did you pull 1.9?
Got it somewhere. Cant quite remember. Point is, the F-15E has a stupid thrust to weight
It has around 1.8 at ideal speed, alt and weight so hes not wrong but just an idiot because nobody uses those values
I’ve got more evidence for the Eurofighter’s bad Thrust.
Eurofighter Specs
Current Dev Server EF2000 T2 Block 10
Max Thrust: 5310 kgf / 52 kN
Afterburner Thrust: 8180 kgf / 80 kN
Reallife EF2000 T2 Block 10 Thrust
In reallife the Eurofighter T2 Block 10 utilizes the EJ200 Mk101 Engine which has
Max Thrust: 6118,3 kgf / 60 kN
Afterburner Thrust: 9177,5 kgf / 90 kN
In sum we are missing for the EJ200 Mk101
Max Thrust: 808,3 kgf / 7926,71 Newton
Afterburner Thrust: 997,5 kgf / 9782,13 Newton
My Point is that we are missing ~1000kgf for Max Thrust and Afterbunrer Thrust
Uninstalled. The engine will have lower preformance in an airframe cause of channel loss. Right now the EF has the lowest channel loss of all added aircraft. The Thrust is fine.
It is odd though that the thrust is different on each EF even though they are for the most part the same airframe.
the thrust is not fine, as stated the values are still wrong. but please explain your “channel loss” thing a bit more since I don’t know what that is or I don’t know what you are talking about ^^
Already the crying babies got the EF nerfed when even it before this changes was lacking 5% to what it is in real life…just w o w.
To put it simple an engine when installed can’t receive the preformance it has un-installed because it has smaller airflow. Right now unless it changed when i did my math the 15E has about 16% channel loss and the 29SMT or it was the SU i don’t remember which i did the math for 17% the EF is showing about 10% for the UK and a measly 5% on the german.
Source: Eurofighter Typhoon by Jaroslaw Manek, Page 9
