Eurofighter has never had suchb low thrust to weight

In the game, the Eurofighter received a 52 kN nerf, which is insane and unrealistic. The Rafale has a better thrust-to-weight ratio of 1.78, while the Eurofighter has 1.76, which doesn’t make any sense.

Eurofighter.

https://www.eurofighter.com/the-aircraft/performance

Both sites show the technical data, and the Eurofighter has 18.3 tons of thrust, while the Rafale has 15 tons when standing still. The Eurofighter weighs one ton more, so the thrust-to-weight ratio doesn’t make sense whatsoever. The eurofighter has higer thrust to weight in every single source that you can find? The nerf is not balanced or realistic at all. And dont forget about the WAR setting on the engine that let is produce 9% more thrust. The Static thrust ≠ Installed thrust does not make sense either.

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look eurofighter higher up

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Source? I really doubt the F/A 18 has a thrust to weight of 1.18. I further soubt the F-16 has a thrust to weight of 1.24

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Rafale thrust: 20800kgf.
Rafale mass with full fuel: 16000kg
1.3:1 TWR for Rafale, NOT 1.8 as you falsely claim.

Typhoon thrust: 22800kgf. [17.4 tons static.]
Typhoon mass with full fuel: 16000kg.
TWR: 1.425:1.

Spoiler







Typhoon’s engines were corrected from their unrealistic PW-220 performance on dev server .23, over 24 hours ago.
If you have unclassified evidence they were over-corrected then supply it.
For now Typhoon has its correct time to altitude, and is the best airframe in War Thunder.

Why?

Because the F/A 18 has a thrust to weight of 1 : 1. The EJ200 has more than 9000LB of thrust per engine, it sits around 9200. The weight of the aircraft is around 10% heavier than the rafale, for example, but it has a lot more thrust (1.2x) so how it has a lower thrust to weight beats me. The rafale F-5 is still in development, so I don’t think that source is credible. The empty weight of the eurofighter is around 10 tonnes, but sources vary to 11. The eurofighter and rafale C should not have the same thrust to weight

And now if you look in game, the rafale has a thrust to weight of 1.86 and the F-15E has a thrust to weight of around 1.9

What?

In game. Every plane has a higher thrust to weight in game

Where did you pull 1.9?

Got it somewhere. Cant quite remember. Point is, the F-15E has a stupid thrust to weight

You can't just put random numbers and whine in the forums expecting things.

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It has around 1.8 at ideal speed, alt and weight so hes not wrong but just an idiot because nobody uses those values

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I’ve got more evidence for the Eurofighter’s bad Thrust.

Eurofighter Specs

Current Dev Server EF2000 T2 Block 10

Max Thrust: 5310 kgf / 52 kN
Afterburner Thrust: 8180 kgf / 80 kN

Reallife EF2000 T2 Block 10 Thrust

In reallife the Eurofighter T2 Block 10 utilizes the EJ200 Mk101 Engine which has

Max Thrust: 6118,3 kgf / 60 kN
Afterburner Thrust: 9177,5 kgf / 90 kN

In sum we are missing for the EJ200 Mk101

Max Thrust: 808,3 kgf / 7926,71 Newton
Afterburner Thrust: 997,5 kgf / 9782,13 Newton

My Point is that we are missing ~1000kgf for Max Thrust and Afterbunrer Thrust

Sources

Engine Details

Bundeswehr Source

Uninstalled. The engine will have lower preformance in an airframe cause of channel loss. Right now the EF has the lowest channel loss of all added aircraft. The Thrust is fine.

It is odd though that the thrust is different on each EF even though they are for the most part the same airframe.

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the thrust is not fine, as stated the values are still wrong. but please explain your “channel loss” thing a bit more since I don’t know what that is or I don’t know what you are talking about ^^

Already the crying babies got the EF nerfed when even it before this changes was lacking 5% to what it is in real life…just w o w.

To put it simple an engine when installed can’t receive the preformance it has un-installed because it has smaller airflow. Right now unless it changed when i did my math the 15E has about 16% channel loss and the 29SMT or it was the SU i don’t remember which i did the math for 17% the EF is showing about 10% for the UK and a measly 5% on the german.

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Source: Eurofighter Typhoon by Jaroslaw Manek, Page 9

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https://community.gaijin.net/issues/p/warthunder/i/wehS2jKdCKuQ

Nvm it got already denied