It’s wild how I can be insulted after I author a post saying Mig-15 is too powerful for 8.0, MD-326K is too powerful for 7.0, there are multiple 7.7s superior to Su-11 and MD450, and La-200 is a difficult plane to use due to its weird dogfight characteristics.
Yet everyone seems to agree with those.
DocProfit was correct to complain about Mig-15 and MD326K.
I can see how DocProfit has difficulties with Su-11 and La-200, especially La-200 where it can boom & zoom rather decently.
The yak-23 was moved from 8.7 to 8.3 not long ago, that one should have stayed at 8.7. Top speed isn’t great but that thing is a dogfighting monster and climbs with mig-15. I played it at 8.7 and it was great.
7.3 is too low, The v3 at 8.0 was very good in my experience. The plane handles very well and turns with the likes of the sea hawk (but even better high speed turn IIRC) with even better guns. Altrough acceleration is quite mediocre for the BR, the energy retention makes up for it. Its not very noob friendly though, bread and butter is setting up overshoots and use those 30mm at long range when your enemy is zomming away.
It’s also a great ground pounder if no one wants to fight you.
The R2Y2 FM is more or less 7.7 standard, but with 500 rounds on 4x 30mm cannons 8.0 is kinda justified with the current BR compression. The jet it feels the closest to at 7.7 is the meteor (mk4?). The R2Y2 turns better, compresses less at speed and rolls better, while the meteor accelerates a bit better. Armament for the meteor is nice, but R2Y2 is even better. Can’t recall which one is faster but I think the meteor mk4. At 7.7 it would be very good, but it isn’t really suffering at 8.0.
Most of these problems would be solved by bumping the mig15s and sabres BR to their original ones
Kinda sad that it’s no longer researchable, rank 5 is so empty without it
Sea hawk has a similar playstyle at 8.0
True but gimme a reason to grind japanese jets other than top tier now…
Just a few jets, the rest is copypaste.
And they removed one of the few unique ones
Kikka, T-2 and Alpha Jet TH
Hopefully when they’ll add Indonesia they’ll add more than just top tier
The MB should def go up. 7.3 + air spawn removal. 7.7 if it keeps doing well.
Most of this br suffers from compression issues.
Lots of planes are too low due to poor player performance. Such as: The A5, or bis ish.
However, there are planes that suffer from player over performance that are no longer good. Such as: Venom, Shenyang, Yak 30, 163 or Ki 200.
Along with some random Gaijin balance. The F25/35 sabres should be 8.7 too.
Or, the Lim/PF should be 9.0.
That’s probably one the most blatant p2w premiums in the whole game, a mig 15 bis at 8.0 while the MD452 C is 8.3, yeah ok gaijin. Ties into your player overperformance point quite nicely actually!
It’s not quite a 15bis but it gets much closer to a 15bis than a standard 15, and it’s definitely p2w
I assume the weird pylons increase weight a bit so you’re right, I was under the impression that they were cosmetic and the stats were just copy pasted. Anyway I kind of understand why it’s at 8.0 from the few bis ish players I’ve met in game, they’re all terrible and I imagine that the average bis ish user dragged down the jet all the way down + major nation so it rakes in a ton of money on sales and events etc
Its a drag increase. Otherwise, all performance is identical.
Might weigh a little more. Does not matter at 8.0
It performs worse, and it is noticeable. It’s not enough to justify 8.0 though
What justifies 8.0 is that it’s premium and money is life
Ngl if they ever revert the changes and also get the base mig 17 to 9.0 the lim5 and shenyang could probably be 9.3. They’re so good at almost everything, and even get pretty close to catching a scimitar if you give them enough time.
I did most of the air tree with shenyang f5 and problem is the other 9.3 are just too good for their rating. When fighting 9.0 and below I didn’t have issues and it felt fair.
Yeah the compression gets really crazy at 9.x and then it never really ends all the way up
The mig 17 shouldnt be 9.0 again
norm 17 should stay 8.7
Lim/PF to 9.0
17AS to 8.7
Shenyang to 9.0
Drop the attitude. It’s not necessary…
Shenyang and lim5p max out at 1149 but turn into an absolutely immovable brick while the scimitar clears 1162 with plenty of extra power to put into a climb left and remaining maneuverable. Good luck catching that. Shenyang should be 9.0 in current MM though anyway.
